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Old 05-26-2008, 01:46 AM
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Driving home from a restaurant, I was casually talking on the phone as I passed a regular, down-to-earth primer Nissan 300ZX. Seemed nothing out of the ordinary; I was doing a little over the speed limit when all of a sudden, all I see is my interior turn very illuminated and the next second dark again and the Nissan flying by me (VERY surprised like ). I quickly ended my phone convo and eased on the gas. Once again I was pleasantly surprised that the car WAS NOT SLOW. AT ALL. At least not like they should be. I didn't catch up until about a mile down the road, where he gassed it again. This time I was quick to react and stayed with him. He finally realized that this was not a V6 (cutout closed/debadged) and slowed down to about 30 (15 under speed limit). Me not having power windows, I nodded and motioned forward. He nodded back and punched it, as did I. He jumped two cars on me blistering-quick and held it there until about 75, where I slowly walked back up on him. At about 90 I passed him and by 120 I put 2 cars on him.

Conclusion:
The sneaky mother ****** had a twin-turbo JDM motor
VG30DETT swap
THe car was primer gray and the outside COMPLETELY factory.
Stock motor with a tune and an exhaust.
He's lucky we didn't race from a light or his *** would've been toast
Overall though he was a pretty cool guy, probably in his early 20's. He said he hadn't taken it to the track yet, but I'm guessing it's a 13.5s car all-in-all.

THANKS FOR YOUR TIME!
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Played with a 300zx in my 99 ta a week or so ago.He came up trying to fly by on a two lane section but I put the pedal down and he then had to file in behind me as road turns to single lane before turning into highway byass. The guy wound up behind me at last set of lights near end of the city. I nailed it off the lights ,I have nittos which help quite a bit and he did also but it was ugly for the 300zx by the time I hit the top of second gear he was way back ,buslengths.I never talked to the guy and it might not have been turboed car. It had four tips but didn't really take close look for emblems. It was nice looking car though and I never talked to the guy to find out more about it.

I dont' have my 408 or turbos installed in my 99 yet,waiting on the 408. My mods in the car are old MTI b1 cam,stock exhaust manifolds, fast 90/NW 90 ,underdrive,cutout ,b and b catback,.stock heads,stock air lid,holley filter ,tex twin disc clutch.From the way I walked away or ran away I would thnk this was non turbo car or near stock turbo version. A decently built one would think should have killed me pretty good. Until the new mods go on.
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Was it an older body style 300zx with the vg30dett?
I ask because the last 300zx (Z32) was available with a vg30dett and the american version technically had a higher HP rating (276hp v 300hp) because of Japan's Gentlemen's agreement.
Good kill, BTW.
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Originally Posted by LS1 seeker
Was it an older body style 300zx with the vg30dett?
I ask because the last 300zx (Z32) was available with a vg30dett and the american version technically had a higher HP rating (276hp v 300hp) because of Japan's Gentlemen's agreement.
Good kill, BTW.
It was the Z32 style body, which, from what I hear, didn't come TT in the states. He said he imported the motor. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Well...
This (Z32) did come w/ the vg30dett (twin turbo):
http://www.johnlanning.com/MoD/Media/Garage/300zx.jpg
And this (Z31) didn't:
http://www.redlineimports.co.uk/disp...0702&img_id=01.

Check this out:http://consumerguideauto.howstuffwor...an-300zx-4.htm

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One I played with was the first style the newer one. So how do you tell its twin turbo do the quad tips mean its twin turbo? Any other emblems and stuff? He wasn't close enough to me to hear blow offs or turbos spooling.
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Originally Posted by MY99TAWS6
One I played with was the first style the newer one. So how do you tell its twin turbo do the quad tips mean its twin turbo? Any other emblems and stuff? He wasn't close enough to me to hear blow offs or turbos spooling.
They all have quad tips stock. The turbo models look nearly idential to the non-turbos minus small lettering on the back that reads "twin turbo" on the extreme upper right hand side. Mine had no badges on it whatsoever except for on the front piece when I got it (go figure). Just decals on the back that say Nissan (left), Twin Turbo (right), and 300zx (middle, large), are really small and ussually removed by the owner (clean look). The longer 2+2s (4 seaters) never had the vg30dett available in the US. They are agile little cars with decent power, that are really held back by their weight (it's about as heavy, or heavier than an f-body). My only other complaint was the horribly cramped engine bay, I sold mine because I would of had to remove the engine to replace the blown turbos.
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good kill. those things can be fast.
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Originally Posted by LS1 seeker
I stand corrected. I guess I was just thinking that no Z32 TT was offered, but the regular 2-seaters were. Maybe he has a 2+2 and swapped the VG30 into it...

Thanks for the props.
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Originally Posted by Rushin
I stand corrected. I guess I was just thinking that no Z32 TT was offered, but the regular 2-seaters were. Maybe he has a 2+2 and swapped the VG30 into it...

Thanks for the props.
Yeah. Either that or he was one of those kids who screams JDM!!! at everyone when he talks about his car...
Nice kill though, those are mean cars with the right mods and down right deadly with some money invested. Their engine bay is just too cramped for me.
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The only way to tell a Turbo z32 form a NA Z32 besides the rear badging is:
-Slits on either size of the front air dam for the intercoolers
-Boost gauge under speedometer
-Stock rear wheels have slight lip over front wheels
-Has stock wing (unless added/removed by owner)
-2+2 NA's had the gas door behind rear tire, there are no 2+2 factory turbos


It is a common mod though for NA owners to import a JDM engine and swap it. Even though the JDM engines are identical to USDM spec ones.
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Originally Posted by MY99TAWS6
One I played with was the first style the newer one. So how do you tell its twin turbo do the quad tips mean its twin turbo? Any other emblems and stuff? He wasn't close enough to me to hear blow offs or turbos spooling.
Al there is a pearl white early 90's rhd 300zxtt roaming around. I didn't get a chance to talk to the guy other than lining up to run the cars but he seems like he's decent. We ran from a 20mph roll (his request) up to 90ish. His BOV is loud, it sounded like sneezing when we got into it You should go track him down. That car might suprise your 99...
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Well the one I played with was sliver,had mylady or something like that for plates and thought had for sale sign on it. Never noticed if was rhd.

As said a built 300zx should be able to pretty easily hit 500 engine hp and that would roast my car in current configuration with only underdrive,cutout,catback, fast 90/90 and fairly mellow MTI b1 cam. My 99 is very heavy too around 3820 with me in there. So how did you do against him faster or slower than him?

They are nice looking cars. RHD is extremely stupid and dangerous though ,especially terrible if you have to pass and you are in tight traffic close to the car ahead. It should be illegal to import RhD vehicles and it kills me they are more worried about bumpers and crap when RHD is so seriously flawed for driving over here.
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Originally Posted by MY99TAWS6
. So how did you do against him faster or slower than him?
You will have to ask him who won Find out what mods he has too. He seemed like a decent guy in his mid twenties. Car was in very nice shape with some nice wide boots....
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Pretty sure 500 RWHP can be had with bolt ons.
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I think for 500rwhp those bolts ons would have to be bigger turbos. I can see maybe 400rwhp from stock turbos possibly.
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I think for 500rwhp those bolts ons would have to be bigger turbos. I can see maybe 400rwhp from stock turbos possibly.
Right, 400 WHP is about the limit of the stockers. But people have made over 500 and been in the 10's and what not with them.

But bigger turbos bolt right on as well.
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Originally Posted by Rushin
I stand corrected. I guess I was just thinking that no Z32 TT was offered, but the regular 2-seaters were. Maybe he has a 2+2 and swapped the VG30 into it...

Thanks for the props.
Small correction, the VG30 is a SOHC engine used in the 84-86 (160hp) and 87-89(165hp) 300zx z31 NA's. The VG30ET is the turbo version of the SOHC. The z32;s came with the VG30DE for the NA's with 222hp and VG30DETT for the twin turbos 300hp.

There are a few 2+2 twin turbos in the US, but they are all NA2T conversions. His engine might well have been JDM. Primer grey, kid in his 20's hrmm I smell a ragged out car that needed an engine and JDM is a fairly easy solution.
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Originally Posted by zraver
Small correction, the VG30 is a SOHC engine used in the 84-86 (160hp) and 87-89(165hp) 300zx z31 NA's. The VG30ET is the turbo version of the SOHC. The z32;s came with the VG30DE for the NA's with 222hp and VG30DETT for the twin turbos 300hp.

There are a few 2+2 twin turbos in the US, but they are all NA2T conversions. His engine might well have been JDM. Primer grey, kid in his 20's hrmm I smell a ragged out car that needed an engine and JDM is a fairly easy solution.
I was using it shorter, instead of typing all VG30DETT. Just like you wouldn't say "I have an ARE BEE TWENTY DEE E TEE TEE." I'm sure you'd rather say RB20. No offence, I'm just pointing out. Otherwise, yes, I agree with the whole ragged-on car in need of a cheap fix.
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kk, sorry.



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