tspence45

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Shon Herron, who holds the bolt-on record for an LT1, ran an 11.8@113.96.

Irunelevens

I'd love to know what kind of weight reduction and gearing he was running... I'm talking about a bolt-on car. Not a semi-stripped track special running bigs/littles.

Edit: Nevermind, did a quick google search... looks like I was pretty close
Granted that's still technically "bolt-ons," but a 300lb diet, drag-oriented suspension, 4.33s with a built 12 bolt, and tube tires isn't exactly what most people think of when they say/hear "bolt-ons." I (and most people) are talking about basically full exhaust, full intake (CAI, TB), and a good tune.

Toronto_LT1

iTrader: (-1)

a full bolt on/full weight LT1 should run on par with a toyota prius.

LS1SS01

My girlfriend has a prius, wanta race?? lol

Toronto_LT1

iTrader: (-1)

okay,but i want three car lenghts.

tspence45

iTrader: (30)

Well, bolt-ons aren't what people generally think. They have it down in writing what is considered bolt-ons. If it's got stock heads/cam/intake without N2O, or forced induction, it's still a bolt-on car. If people choose not to do the right suspension or drivetrain mods to put all the power they can to the ground, that's their fault.

Irunelevens

I'm well aware of what "the rules" say. But that's for record-breaking competition. Not ******* around on the street. When a NORMAL person says "I have bolt-ons," 99% of people will assume they mean intake/exhaust. MAYBE some LCAs or something like that.

I8ASaleen

iTrader: (9)

Wait, wait, wait, all of this coming from a guy who always talks about what a car "can" do versus what the NORM is???

Irunelevens

When talking about people basing their opinion of what a car "can" do based on street races, absolutely... but we're a car with 400lbs of weight reduction, a couple thousand in suspension, built rearend, and running on straight track tires. I HIGHLY doubt that's what the guy had in mind when he said that a bolt-on LT1 was about even with a stock LS1.

I8ASaleen

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CAI and full exhaust is not full bolt-on's. That's just basic.
I don't make the rules here, if the way you wanna angle it is going by what a car can do with bolt-on's then that's what you get.

Irunelevens

Whatever you say

LT1

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Yeah, the term " full bolt-on" isnt the best choice of words, only reason i said full bolt-on because the next step would be either head/cam , bottom end, nitrous, or force induction, but i think someone thats spent 10 grand in suspension work might be far beyond simple "full bolt-on" catagory. Its just a really hard word to define.

Irunelevens

Yeah, cuz there are technically 11s "bolt-on" Cobras too (ask Bob Cosby), but I doubt anybody thinks about a car like his when you say "I ran a full bolt-on Cobra on the highway last night."

LT1PwrdZ

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low 12's with bolt ons?? Hmm bolt on nitrous??

LT1PwrdZ

iTrader: (1)

no no no.. whatever you say

carbonfiberbird

iTrader: (4)

you know there is such a thing as too much traction You dont wanna bog

ZFan88

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If you think age has nothing to do with maturity, then you're really showing your immaturity. A full bolt-on LT1 will easily take a stock or close to stock LS1. I've driven/raced both plenty of times. Of course once the LS1 mods come close the tables will turn, but that's not what is being debated here..

carbonfiberbird

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being misinformed and immature are two completely different things, now I know a true full bolt on lt1 will smoke an ls1.

95 Z28

iTrader: (21)

No. There's no such thing as too much traction. If you're bogging, you don't have "too much traction," you're launching too low.

carbonfiberbird

iTrader: (4)

for the perfect launch you want some wheel spin, yes, just think of it this way, if I put 315 DR's on my 3cyl. geo it will slow it down