mitchntx

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hmmm ... I guess that is possible.

But the ones I referenced above work great. There is over an inch of thread engagement and about 1/4" of thread outside the jam nut.

Big Bird WS6

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well mine range any where from 16 1/4 to 15. so rod end is the big factor

mitchntx

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So I guess buying from Coleman and XM rod ends from Jegs is the answer ... to be safe.

Big Bird WS6

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^ ^ ^ or buy your rod ends. measure them. then buy the tube. or you can pay a little bit more for someone to already have a tried and ture product and buy it complete ready to bolt on. like in my link from 6litereater

soulless

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I've run these for over two years now with no complaints.
http://www.lmperformance.com/18851/1.html
http://www.lmperformance.com/18822/1.html

mitchntx

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So when does a set become "tried and true" in your eyes?


The only detail I left out was that the same exact parts I referenced were installed in 04 and 05 on those cars and they've been racing 25+ races (with associated qual and practice sessions) per year.

So at what point do they pass muster?

z28bryan

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The johnny joint LCA's might be the next best thing out there since sliced bread and all the sponsors might start selling them. Maybe... But since this is new, I don't know how you can claim "tried and true" yet.

slow ride 02

Those look just like the ones you can make using parts from colman and UMI.

$132.00 for the set of LCA's

$71.00 for the PHB

$203.00 vs $289.00. Not to too bad in my eyes. But you do get free shipping with the LMP units.

Big Bird WS6

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well your right, but new to you and the forum. not new to me and the guys around here. or new to the currie people.

just cause it is the first time you see it, or the first time the forum sees it. doesnt mean it is new.

but call it what you want. but if you take the tube( just the tube that is use) well hundreds of guys run rod stlye LCA so they all use similiar tubes. ok so tube tried and true.

now lets take the JJ and ask currie how long it is used. and how many people run them. you will find out that it is tried and true in the rock climbing world.

now put them together. and it is a BAD *** set up.

but we are working on a new style. basicly the same thing but made out of machined aluminum. it should be about 6 months before it releases though.

slow ride 02

1.125 X .220 6061-T6 for the aluminum. $16.00 ea

1.00 hexagon extruded aluminum $12.80 ea.

15/16 X .125 steel $10.30 ea

1.00 X .072 swedged steel $11.60 ea

1.250 X .231 H.D. D.O.M steel tubing $77.95 ea with rod ends. LCA or PHB

Big Bird WS6

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my comments in bold

SJM Manufacturing Inc

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For the folks making their own components, rod end center bores are not available in metric diameters. If you're re-using stock hardware, you should not be using a 1/2" ID bore rod end. The hole size variance is rather large and creates unwanted noise. Your rod end could be brand new, but will rattle due to the larger 1/2" rod end bore and smaller 12mm bolt.

Make certain you're either stepping up to a 1/2" bolt for your LCA or PHR or start with a larger diamater bore rod end and use a step bushing that has the correct ID metric bore measurement...the same as the bolts. The PHR bracket needs addressed as well.

I feel the arguements of making own products is futile. Sometimes you can save money, sometimes you don't. Sometimes I see someone adding costs, they neglect time, effort, gas, shipping etc which can make quite the difference in what they are "saving".

There is a sense of self accomplishment that can't be purchased when building something for yourself. That I commend those folks on. Not for reasons of saving 10-20.00.

Big Bird WS6

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^ ^ ^ good response.

and the bolt thing is a very good point. you should use a 12 mm bolt, unless you can get a 1/2 to work.

mitchntx

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Whew!

Glad I use a 5/8" bore size rod ends and a steel machined insert/spacer combo for my $160 (including shipping) aluminum LCA/PHB combo.

Big Bird WS6

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^ ^ ^ where you get your inserts?

slow ride 02

UMI sales the bushings.

Big Bird WS6

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^ ^ ^ so does bmr and spohn and dkt and j&m and lg motorsports. but mitchntx said he can get it all for x price. just wondering if he is getting a deal on his inserts. like he is gettting a deal from jegs on the rod ends.

slow ride 02

What rod ends did you use? I used the QA1 XM's with spacers from UMI ($25.00 ea) and $53.00 worth of tubing from coleman racing. Thats $203.00. Was the $160 just for the rod ends?

slow ride 02

Just a up date. Bought all the parts and installed them. Didn't helpl the 60' time(Didnnt think it would) The Q1A rod ends i Got fro UMI are very quite. And I was looking at a sponcer on the right Pavlock Performance and they look like same.

Big Bird WS6

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the xm series is teflon and kevlar lined. the teflon is soft but the kevlar is not.

if you run them ever day i give the rods ends 6 moneths to a year.

then you will have to re buy them at say 30 dollars. ok so lets just say you get two years out of them before they become lose. so that is 120 dollars ever two years to keep up on your rod ends.

now the 6Litereater style are a little more up front. but if they only last two year( which most last longer) it will only cost you 8 dollars per end so 32 dollars.

hell that is cheap

rod ends
2 years = 120
4 years = 240

JJ joints
2 years = 32
4 years =64

looks like the jj joints pay for them selves

and anyone that wants to know where to get the 6litereater joints. look in my sig