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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 11:45 PM
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After buying my car, I reluctantly discovered it had been wrecked, most of it was repaired well enough, except for the PHB Mount.

The top mount where it mounts to the body. Looks like it got tore up bad in the wreck and they tried to repair it but messed it up more. The bottom hole is tore up and I cant get a stock bolt back in there, so I have it setup up with a slightly thinner stage 8 bolt and some washers.

Its working fine, but It bothers the **** out of me and I want to fix it.

At first I though about cutting one off of a scrap car and having the odl one cut off and the replacement welded on butthen I worriad about having a welding seam right there, figured to much stress.

So how would you go about fixing it?

I thought about grinding it smooth and drilling a stock size hole back in there and having a template made out of the same material and welded up.

What you guys think?
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 01:25 AM
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I would measure a stock one and fabricate a new one out of 3/16th. You could even take a piece of the same material and splice the two together. I have a decent idea, I'll draw it up in the morning and post it.
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 09:07 AM
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Perfect excuse to buy Strano's Watts link.
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 09:48 AM
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Why, does it do away with the mount?
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by TAEnvy
Why, does it do away with the mount?
No, I don't believe it does.
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by wannafbody
Perfect excuse to buy Strano's Watts link.
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 10:39 AM
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Cut the mount out of a totaled car that still has a good PHB mount assembly, and go from there.
Or have a good suspension shop fab. one up.

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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 99Bluz28
Cut the mount out a totaled car that still has a good PHB mount assembly, and go from there.
Or have a good suspension shop fab. one up.
But woudl it really be wise to have a seam in the middle of that bracket?
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 10:47 AM
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But woudl it really be wise to have a seam in the middle of that bracket?
No, he was saying use the entire mount.
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 10:56 AM
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If possible post up some pictures.
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 11:11 AM
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If the bolt you're using isn't that much thinner then just put a sleeve around it as it goes through the PHB to eliminate any play.

Pics would help, though.
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 11:55 AM
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Well Im leaving for my brothers bachelor party so i cant get any pictures. The play comes from a welding mess, Looks like they did some welding on the actual hole, cause there is melted metal all around the hole, so its not round.

Hard to explain.
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 12:53 PM
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Drill out the hole bigger and weld some new pieces of metal with the correct size hole over them. Or use a PHB with an oversized rod end and use a bigger bolt after drilling the hole out.
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 03:17 PM
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I think Ill try that
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 06:06 PM
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Have you checked the panhard bar kit, or relocation kit from Jegs? I believe it has a new "chassis side" mount as part of the kit.....
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 06:21 PM
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Don't use the relocation kit. It'll affect handling....
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by dragonrage
Don't use the relocation kit. It'll affect handling....
The OP said his original bracket is trashed, the Jegs kit supplies a NEW ONE! Why not go with it???

Secondly, a panhard bar should be level to the ground when the car is at ride height. The Jegs bracket has several mounting holes to adjust the panhard bar accordingly, to keep it level. Again, why not go with it??
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 07:07 AM
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I can't tell from the OP if the whole mount is trashed or the lower part of the mount is wrinkled such that he can't get a bolt through it.

Someone suggested sourcing a larger rod end, like a 3/4" and then source a grade 8 bolt and drill out the holes.

That sounds to me like the best solution all the way around. There isn't a tremendous loading on the mount. Even at 1G, it has to be less than 1/2 the weight of the car. And then it's lateral. The clamping force of a 3/4" bolt is more than sufficient to hold a ton of weight.
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mitchntx
I can't tell from the OP if the whole mount is trashed or the lower part of the mount is wrinkled such that he can't get a bolt through it.

Someone suggested sourcing a larger rod end, like a 3/4" and then source a grade 8 bolt and drill out the holes.

That sounds to me like the best solution all the way around. There isn't a tremendous loading on the mount. Even at 1G, it has to be less than 1/2 the weight of the car. And then it's lateral. The clamping force of a 3/4" bolt is more than sufficient to hold a ton of weight.

I agree with what you're saying, Mitch, but it sounds like the OP might be still using an OE panhard bar, in which case he's dealing with bushings rather that rod ends.


(Must have been one hell of a bachelor party, he hasn't checked back in 3 days!!)
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 07:40 PM
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Good catch ... I glossed over that detail.

He better have pics ...
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