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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 08:02 AM
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He might have meant the DA setup, which is over $300 a shock....I dunno....

Otherwise, yeah, Koni's are your best bet, with Bilsteins and KYB AGX's following up
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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 99FormulaM6r
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He might have meant the DA setup, which is over $300 a shock....I dunno....

Otherwise, yeah, Koni's are your best bet, with Bilsteins and KYB AGX's following up
the Koni DA's are very rarely the recommended choice, so even if he does mean those the statement is still VERY misleading.

most people that are the "Koni haters" are people that can't/won't spend the money, and some try to justify their position by greatly exagerating the price.
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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 09:08 AM
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I know, I'm just trying to give him a break, lol
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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 09:14 AM
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posting misleading/inaccurate/wrong info that might steer readers away from a product that is clearly the best in it's category doesn't deserve a break. it deserves to be pointed out and corrected, for the good of all readers.
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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by pjb
posting misleading/inaccurate/wrong info that might steer readers away from a product that is clearly the best in it's category doesn't deserve a break. it deserves to be pointed out and corrected, for the good of all readers.
I think if your going to say the Koni DA's are extremely not recommended, then you should explain why
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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 10:20 AM
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I didn't say "extremely not recommended".
I said very rarely recommended.

It seems that the DA is overkill for most people, and the cost/benefit is not worth it in most cases. the usual recommendation is the SA.
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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by pjb
I didn't say "extremely not recommended".
I said very rarely recommended.

It seems that the DA is overkill for most people, and the cost/benefit is not worth it in most cases. the usual recommendation is the SA.
lol, ok. I was a little off. And I agree with you. But give reasons why. Lots of times we all trash people's recommendations and don't explain why. These people are all pretty smart... tell them why you don't like them
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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 12:15 PM
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Ahh, wow.

pjb is correct, Koni 4/3 SA's are $750/set shipped with the current sale pricing. 4/4 SA's are $850/set shipped.

DA's if you did rudimentary math DA's come to about $1200/set shipped on sale.... But I don't often recommend DA's all around for most folks. In fact I own a set and run SA's on my car. So it's a little mis-leading to say "Koni's are $300 each".... SA's fronts are about that, DA's fronts are a lot more than that. SA rears are a lot less than that, DA rears are about that.
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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 01:13 PM
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So basically a few reasons why as far as I know that DA's are kinda overkill for most people:
-SA's have a good enough compression static setting for most people
-DA's don't have the front lower perch option
-DA's are more expensive
-DA's have slightly less suspension travel range due to the bottom adjustment
-and probably other reasons too that I don't know about or forgot about

Back to the original topic... I wouldn't put stranos on the lower perch unless you don't care about ride quality. Again that's only my opinion... I'm sure theres a few people out there doing it and like it...
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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 99Bluz28
Just do the "Upper Mount Mod" up front and put the Koni SA's on the lower perch, and since your car sits abnormally high it'll only drop the front down to about 26.2". In the rear do the "Hose Mod" and install some koni 55mm bumpstops directly on the koni shock shafts then remove the factory bumpstops.
Sam, can you do this? Does the upper mount mod allow you to put the strano/koni 4/4 setup on the lower perch? I remember reading that if you put use the lower perch your shocks will wear extremely fast.
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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 05:57 PM
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"If you put use the lower perch your shocks will wear extremely fast"

That's because you risk bottoming out your shock more often, but with the U.M.M. that's not a problem.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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can you link me to the upper mount mod?
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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 06:31 PM
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BTW, I did the U.M.M. in November 2008 and have had no problems with it.

Upper Mount Mod:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/suspensio...ock-mount.html
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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 99Bluz28
BTW, I did the U.M.M. in November 2008 and have had no problems with it.

Upper Mount Mod:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/suspensio...ock-mount.html
thanks! I see it states if you want to lower your car 1" to see post #49. I dont understand what to do ??? can you do this with after market suspension (koni/strano)?
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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 01Blk*SS*
thanks! I see it states if you want to lower your car 1" to see post #49. I dont understand what to do ??? can you do this with after market suspension (koni/strano)?
That's only making reference to cutting the front coils for a 1" drop, I don't think you want to do that.
With the U.M.M. you dont have to cut 3/4" from the center, that's the most you should cut,you can cut less.
So, just cut 3/8" from the center to make up for the additional 3/8" lose in suspension compression travel from putting the lower spring seat on the lower perch of the front koni SA's.
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Old May 1, 2010 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by pjb
$300 each????????????? where do you people come up with this stuff???????

Sam has Koni 4/3's for $754 a set and 4/4's for $850 a set.

gesh..... get a clue before you post garbage.
I'm trying to get a clue, which is why I posted a question. You don't have to rip my face off. Simply stating facts and answering my question in a decent manner would get more success than saying I post "useless garbage". But, whatever. Maybe you had a bad day.

FWIW, I was on Summit's website and that price was for a Koni DA. I simply forgot to mention that it was DA and I apologize for that. I wanted to be steered in the right direction and 99FormulaM6r gave me a good bump. I can now read up and decide for myself what to do because he narrowed it to 3 choices of what is best or at least best bang for the buck.
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Old May 2, 2010 | 10:11 AM
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$300 each????????????? where do you people come up with this stuff???????

Sam has Koni 4/3's for $754 a set and 4/4's for $850 a set.

gesh..... get a clue before you post garbage.

Wow, heaven forbid the guy asks a question on a tech forum that a single part of his question is slightly wrong. He was after all asking for help and advice, not to have some jerk rip into him. Maybe he should have searched more, maybe he should have reserched more, maybe he should have checked the preview before submitting to make sure he had every detail exactly correct so someone like you couldnt pick it apart. People like you are the reason alot of people dont like to post on forums, because there are only a handful of people who will answer questions from ill informed, lack of knowledge people, with respect.

FYI if he "had a clue" about the topic he wouldnt of had to post the question, in turn he wouldnt of had to read your " garbage" reply
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Old May 2, 2010 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 99Bluz28
That's only making reference to cutting the front coils for a 1" drop, I don't think you want to do that.
With the U.M.M. you dont have to cut 3/4" from the center, that's the most you should cut,you can cut less.
So, just cut 3/8" from the center to make up for the additional 3/8" lose in suspension compression travel from putting the lower spring seat on the lower perch of the front koni SA's.
Im going to do the mod just trying to think it all out. I am an engineering student and enjoy modding. thanks for your helpful info.
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I am trying to picture why running the konis on the lower perch with stranos is bad.... Is it because the shocks travel is increased the extra lower perch distance which makes it more likely for the shock to hit the bumpstop harder??? lol i hope that made sense...
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Also do you know the distance between the two perch grooves?
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