Shocks/spring question
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Shocks/spring question I've read alot about first suspension mods being shocks....well I want them...soley daily driving, never street race...just looking for a cheap fix for a upgrade. I'm looking at either TOKICO 330$ set of 4 or kyb for about 400$. Maybe some blisten, but I don't want to spend so much just on shocks. and... can I just keep the stock springs? or is it HIGHLY RECCOMENDED to replace those as well...(cheap, but better than stock) all I'm looking for.. so please no koni responses..
I had KYB AGX shocks on my LT1 Camaro and it made a huge difference in handling. I didn't change springs because I worried about the ride height, especially on rough Michigan roads. A couple of years ago, the KYBs were cheaper than Bilsteins but now they're about the same price so I'm going with Bilstein on my new LS1, again going with the stock springs.
A lot of times people go with lowered springs for looks, not handling.
A lot of times people go with lowered springs for looks, not handling.
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So theirs really no need for springs then? The price of the TOKICO (SET OF 4)are fking great though. I just wish I could read more threads about people running them...and I know exactly what you mean about michigan roads...pot hole city..
I think the reason why you won't read much about the Tokico shocks is because most people either go with Koni shocks (if they can afford them, especially if they're lowering their cars) or Bilsteins. Some people in the past used KYB AGX as the "poor man" substitute for Konis when using lowering spring due to the adjustability of AGXs.
These cars have been out so long that certain parts have been proven to be either the best or most cost effective solution for specific problems. I think shocks are one of those areas:
1. Koni (if you can afford them and want the "best" or if lowering your car)
2. Bilstein
3. KYB AGX as a cheap way to go if you need/want the adjustability needed for lowering.
These cars have been out so long that certain parts have been proven to be either the best or most cost effective solution for specific problems. I think shocks are one of those areas:
1. Koni (if you can afford them and want the "best" or if lowering your car)
2. Bilstein
3. KYB AGX as a cheap way to go if you need/want the adjustability needed for lowering.
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ok...I will never lower the vehicle...so no need for adjustable right? I'm ordering off the ws6 store so point me in the right direction please... 93-02 SLP Bilstein Shock Package #70008 this is the one right? and that's all I need? no other componets for the install? tks man...by the way ...99 ta auto.
Just bc you will never lower the car does not necessarily mean you won't benefit/want adjustability. My point is that an engineer/susp guy at Bilstein/Tokico etc. decides how much dampening your chassis needs, not you. They want to make a shock that will satisfy most of their potential customers or the product wont sell and be labelled as junk or poor performing. That being said, I've had the SLP Bilsteins and found them great. There were, however, times I wanted more dampening. If I had to, I'd go back to the Bilsteins (I now have Konis) in a heartbeat. These shocks were such a step up from stock I would suggest to anyone that they are worth it.
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hi,you can check with mr. sam strano or other vendors. they are reputable and will enlighten you on your needs. the shocks/struts will make alot of difference in the ride/handling characteristics of your vehicle. this is one of the best mods you can do and expound as money allows$$$$$$.
have a blessed day and good luck......please use caution and safety equipmentwhen working on vehicle
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Bilstiens are much better quality than Tokico or KYB and about the same price as the KYB AGX. I think they are a little less than 400 actually for a set of 4 SLPs. I'm pretty sure you can't go wrong with the Bilstiens and stock springs.
Bilstein are definitely the best choice of the KYB, Tokico, Bilstein three... I have plenty in stock, they are $384.99 plus shipping (which isn't much to Michigan from PA)... $405 to the door most likely, if you are around Detroit, a little more if you are further away.
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Bilstein are definitely the best choice of the KYB, Tokico, Bilstein three... I have plenty in stock, they are $384.99 plus shipping (which isn't much to Michigan from PA)... $405 to the door most likely, if you are around Detroit, a little more if you are further away.
You're right the gears won't help the hop much. 
But the shocks could be a huge part of that issue especially on Michigan roads with the heaves and bumps.
I can do the LCA's and brackets too.... Given the miles I'm guessing are on the car, I'd have to say shocks first as they will help in a lot of ways--even with the hop to some degree, but you might well need the arms anyway.
I'd do Bilstein's. I like the poly/roto-joint arms a lot because the roto's allow good articulation with bumps and ruts... And brackets--that's up to you. If you are not lowered, I'd not recommend them.
But the shocks could be a huge part of that issue especially on Michigan roads with the heaves and bumps. I can do the LCA's and brackets too.... Given the miles I'm guessing are on the car, I'd have to say shocks first as they will help in a lot of ways--even with the hop to some degree, but you might well need the arms anyway.
I'd do Bilstein's. I like the poly/roto-joint arms a lot because the roto's allow good articulation with bumps and ruts... And brackets--that's up to you. If you are not lowered, I'd not recommend them.
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You're right the gears won't help the hop much. But the shocks could be a huge part of that issue especially on Michigan roads with the heaves and bumps.
I can do the LCA's and brackets too.... Given the miles I'm guessing are on the car, I'd have to say shocks first as they will help in a lot of ways--even with the hop to some degree, but you might well need the arms anyway.
I'd do Bilstein's. I like the poly/roto-joint arms a lot because the roto's allow good articulation with bumps and ruts... And brackets--that's up to you. If you are not lowered, I'd not recommend them.
But the shocks could be a huge part of that issue especially on Michigan roads with the heaves and bumps. I can do the LCA's and brackets too.... Given the miles I'm guessing are on the car, I'd have to say shocks first as they will help in a lot of ways--even with the hop to some degree, but you might well need the arms anyway.
I'd do Bilstein's. I like the poly/roto-joint arms a lot because the roto's allow good articulation with bumps and ruts... And brackets--that's up to you. If you are not lowered, I'd not recommend them.
I will call you at the end of next week for the LCA order for sure...and thank you.... Last edited by justin hover; Feb 7, 2011 at 03:44 PM.
Well, if it was a WS6 you'd have better shocks, but still not great. And remember that they've got the miles equal to having been around world twice now.
I get the money part... but I guess it comes down to priorities. The shocks should help hop but might not cure it. Honestly LCA's might not cure it. Then again, either/or might. The advantage to shocks is the car will ride and drive better in other ways.
I get the money part... but I guess it comes down to priorities.
The shocks should help hop but might not cure it. Honestly LCA's might not cure it. Then again, either/or might. The advantage to shocks is the car will ride and drive better in other ways.
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forgot to tell you....the wheel hop....If i'm on a perfectly paved road...I floor it from a stop...it hops..the low trac light comes on...kinda feels like I loose power....really pisses me off cause, someone will say "BURN'EM" and...i can't(unless it's raining)
That's how it usually goes. Various combinations of shocks, lcas, relocation brackets, and torque arm upgrades can help cure wheel hop.
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