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Old 05-19-2011, 11:13 PM
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Default Weights: Watts Link vs Stock Panhard Bar

Replaced my stock panhard bar and brace with a Fays2 Watts link. Thought others may be interested in the weights of each. Pictures attached for clarification if needed.

Stock Panhard Bar (PHB) (included for those who are replacing the stock PHB with an aftermarket): 5.4lbs

Stock Panhard Bar, Brace and drivers side hardware that attaches PHB to rear axle (This is effectively what is replaced by the Watts Link): 10.18lbs

Watts Link with all necessary hardware including sway bar spacers: 29.43lbs

Watts Link with all necessary hardware except sway bar spacers: 28.80lbs
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Thanks -- this is info the vendors should be providing, IMHO.

So when is the chrome moly Watts Link coming out?

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Good idea. I should have weighed my steel aftermarket PHR (who doesn't have an aftermarket one at this pont?) it sure was beefy compared to stock esp with the rod ends!
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Originally Posted by libertyforall1776
Thanks -- this is info the vendors should be providing, IMHO.

So when is the chromoly Watts Link coming out?
i've got a MWC watts link, I think its chromoly. I should have weighed the SOB before i put it in. But i bet its wayyyy less than 29 pounds, probably more like 10 pounds.

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Our Watts link is made from chromemoly for sure. It is by far the lightest setup out there and is fully adjustable. I'm not sure of the exactweight off the top of my head, but I guarantee you its way less than 29 pounds, and has exhaust clearance like no other track locator can. I will get some weights on it and post up when I get a chance.
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IIRC, about half the weight of the Fays2 Watts link setup was the hardware, specifically the HD rod ends and axle clamps! Weight is weight for sure. The Aurora rod ends were heavy on their own as well and the bolts - wow!. If the clamps were made from something lighter (if possible) that would make a difference, but the bracket itself, although stout, didn't seem to be too heavy on its' own. Its' strength lies in the truss type braces, not in its' mass. Maybe chromoly there? I must note, the weight of the individual componants was satifying in that the stuff that needs to be strong is made from strong (albeit heavy) quality componants. I wonder how much mass could be pared without sacrificing strength/durability? Is chromoly stronger than steel? Doesn't something made of that have to be made thicker to match the strength of steel? It would still be lighter, though, just bigger guage.
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Looking forward to your weight picture... Is your WL compatible with stock 4th Gen rear-ends? Could be just me, but I can't see how you will sell many WL's when you don't even list or picture them on your Products page...

Pictures please!

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Our Watts link is made from chromemoly for sure. It is by far the lightest setup out there and is fully adjustable. I'm not sure of the exactweight off the top of my head, but I guarantee you its way less than 29 pounds, and has exhaust clearance like no other track locator can. I will get some weights on it and post up when I get a chance.

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Originally Posted by libertyforall1776
Looking forward to your weight picture... Is your WL compatible with stock 4th Gen rear-ends? Could be just me, but I can't see how you will sell many WL's when you don't even list or picture them on your Products page...

Pictures please!
I know they have made weld on brackets for a 8.8, and i saw the mentioned they can do bolt on brackets for the 8.8 , so i don't see any reason they can't do the same for a 10 bolt.
and for whats it worth I saw alot of watts links at their shop, so I don't think they are doing to bad on selling watts links.
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^ Just imagine how much more successful they could be if they actually showed what they sell...

Any other vendors selling Watts Links for 4th Gens?
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Originally Posted by libertyforall1776
^ Just imagine how much more successful they could be if they actually showed what they sell...

Any other vendors selling Watts Links for 4th Gens?
Lol, I don't think they are having any trouble getting business, hence 3 month lead times. I think they have about as much business as they can handle. Any more business and there will be 6,7,8 month leads. They have said time and time again that they are a small shop and thats how they keep cost down and quality up.
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Maybe they can do a GP on their Watt's.
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Good info, right on the numbers I got

Panhardrod brace- 4.980 with the 3 bolts, nut and the small heat sheild bracket for a 7mm bolt.



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