Ultimate suspension setup, your choices?
03-01-2004, 09:25 PM
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Ultimate suspension setup, your choices? If you had an almost limitless budget what suspension pieces would you pick for a car that was still street driven/limited daily driver.
Include k-memebers, brakes, and all suspension components like springs, shocks etc.
Things like the Porsche brake upgrade would be acceptable but heim joints on suspension components probably wouldn't be.
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Include k-memebers, brakes, and all suspension components like springs, shocks etc.
Things like the Porsche brake upgrade would be acceptable but heim joints on suspension components probably wouldn't be.
Discuss
03-02-2004, 04:21 PM
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The LG setup would be prime. But you say you dont want heim joints. In your post you said "ultimate" suspension. In most peoples opinion "ultimate" would mean the epidome of track suspension. Something that could tear through corners with out looking back.
IMHO you cant have the "ultimate" and retain regular busings. You have to go with the heim joints IMHO. The heim joints help prevent binding of the shaft. So with that being said, here is my list.
LG coil overs 650-700front 250 rear (maybe even stiffer up front)
LG DA LCA's
LG DA PHB
LG HD TQ arm
LG upper and lower A arms
ST 35mm front sway
Stock rear sway
I would keep the stock K member. I havent seen anything on the market yet that does anything more than shave weight off the nose at the expense of possibly weakening the area.
Pro speed porsche conversion brake kit.
That is just off the top of my head. I mention alot of the LG parts because he has really set an industry standard for Fbody suspension components. There are much more "race" engineered parts available like PENSKE, MOTON etc. But from what I have seen with those kits is that you will spend more time trying to dial in the suspension than just getting on the track and going for broke. With the LG kit you are more likely to get on the track and be better dialed in than with other more "hardcore" set ups that would take time to adjust. I havent personally had experience with the LG kit, this is just from what I have heard and found through research.
the LG kit still provides "some" level of streetability while still giving you excellent track use. MOTON and PENSKE are more "race" only application.
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IMHO you cant have the "ultimate" and retain regular busings. You have to go with the heim joints IMHO. The heim joints help prevent binding of the shaft. So with that being said, here is my list.
LG coil overs 650-700front 250 rear (maybe even stiffer up front)
LG DA LCA's
LG DA PHB
LG HD TQ arm
LG upper and lower A arms
ST 35mm front sway
Stock rear sway
I would keep the stock K member. I havent seen anything on the market yet that does anything more than shave weight off the nose at the expense of possibly weakening the area.
Pro speed porsche conversion brake kit.
That is just off the top of my head. I mention alot of the LG parts because he has really set an industry standard for Fbody suspension components. There are much more "race" engineered parts available like PENSKE, MOTON etc. But from what I have seen with those kits is that you will spend more time trying to dial in the suspension than just getting on the track and going for broke. With the LG kit you are more likely to get on the track and be better dialed in than with other more "hardcore" set ups that would take time to adjust. I havent personally had experience with the LG kit, this is just from what I have heard and found through research.
the LG kit still provides "some" level of streetability while still giving you excellent track use. MOTON and PENSKE are more "race" only application.
JMO
03-02-2004, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by NataSS Inc
The LG setup would be prime. But you say you dont want heim joints. In your post you said "ultimate" suspension. In most peoples opinion "ultimate" would mean the epidome of track suspension. Something that could tear through corners with out looking back.
IMHO you cant have the "ultimate" and retain regular busings. You have to go with the heim joints IMHO. The heim joints help prevent binding of the shaft.
IMHO you cant have the "ultimate" and retain regular busings. You have to go with the heim joints IMHO. The heim joints help prevent binding of the shaft.
03-02-2004, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by mitchntx
I agree ... it's like saying I want the ultimate sports car, but want it to seat 4 comfortably and get 40mpg.
I can see heim joints on the shocks but probably not on all the suspension components on a street driven car. If I said ultimate track only car I wouldn't have a problem with the heim joints or a 10pt cage, but both seem anti daily driver friendly.
03-02-2004, 11:04 PM
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My TA has 80K miles. The only stock suspension on it are teh upper A-Arms. EVERYTHING else is rod ends.
I drove it to work yesterday and to a local get together, 40 miles away, Saturday night. I'm trailering it to Texas World Speedway this upcoming weekend for 2 days on a 2.9 mile road course.
Here is the car in action ...
http://24.0.108.222/mitchntx/mitch.wmv
It's not the fact it has heim joints, but has QUALITY heim joints.
I drove it to work yesterday and to a local get together, 40 miles away, Saturday night. I'm trailering it to Texas World Speedway this upcoming weekend for 2 days on a 2.9 mile road course.
Here is the car in action ...
http://24.0.108.222/mitchntx/mitch.wmv
It's not the fact it has heim joints, but has QUALITY heim joints.
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03-02-2004, 11:42 PM
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So if you get good heim joints it's bareable to drive the car daily on the street? I've only ever heard they sqeak and rattle and make the susp almost unbareable for daily use. That's just what I've heard so maybe you can prove that wrong and I'll learn something new 
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Ultimate suspension setup, your choices? Ultimate suspension setup, your choices? ---Mine is the ultimate---consistant 1.3x 60ft's now and getting better by the tune!!!!!
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Originally Posted by BADZ
Ultimate suspension setup, your choices? ---Mine is the ultimate---consistant 1.3x 60ft's now and getting better by the tune!!!!!
03-03-2004, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Fulton 1
Ya, I guess this begs the question - "ultimate" in what context? The "ultimate" street suspension != the "ultimate" rr suspension != the "ultimate" drag racing suspension, etc...
Probably leaning more towards handling for auto-x road race type situations. I'd still want it to be able to go to the drag stip though and cut 1.7 60" times or in that region with sticky tires.
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Quality rod-ends don't rattle or squeak. They do wear out periodically and require replacing...but so will all quality parts. You won't go wrong using LG heim joints.
Originally Posted by FAST LS1
I guess I was going more for the all around suspension.
Probably leaning more towards handling for auto-x road race type situations. I'd still want it to be able to go to the drag stip though and cut 1.7 60" times or in that region with sticky tires.
Probably leaning more towards handling for auto-x road race type situations. I'd still want it to be able to go to the drag stip though and cut 1.7 60" times or in that region with sticky tires.
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Originally Posted by mitchntx
My TA has 80K miles. The only stock suspension on it are teh upper A-Arms. EVERYTHING else is rod ends.
I drove it to work yesterday and to a local get together, 40 miles away, Saturday night. I'm trailering it to Texas World Speedway this upcoming weekend for 2 days on a 2.9 mile road course.
Here is the car in action ...
http://24.0.108.222/mitchntx/mitch.wmv
It's not the fact it has heim joints, but has QUALITY heim joints.
I drove it to work yesterday and to a local get together, 40 miles away, Saturday night. I'm trailering it to Texas World Speedway this upcoming weekend for 2 days on a 2.9 mile road course.
Here is the car in action ...
http://24.0.108.222/mitchntx/mitch.wmv
It's not the fact it has heim joints, but has QUALITY heim joints.
Any more?