hi guys i have just picked up a 2000 ws6 bone stock with 30k for 4500 dollars
so i am looking to do some suspension work before i drop in my new engine

i was wondering if anybody can give me some pointers on what suspension
components are good. money is no issue for what i paid for the car will also
be swapping in new 12 bolt from moser

what i am looking for
rear lca
ph bar
sfcs opinions on bolt ins and weld ins
coil overs for the front (want to lower the car)
coil overs for the rear or an adjustable drag shock with a good rear spring
also was wondering about spring rates
like the raked look will also be running billet specialities

sorry for the long post i am a porsche mechanic and new to drag suspension
prospective looking for any good ideas thanks fellow ls fanatics

 

wondering about parts interchange ability for torque arms and what brackkets i may need plz help

 

UMI rear control arms and relocation brackets roto-joint
UMI Panhard rod ended
UMI SFC weld in
MWC Anti-roll bar
Strange shocks
300# springs are common

M6 or A4? why a 12 bolt? why not a 9"?

The TQ arms are dependent on the rear you have/will have

 

Yea I run UMI everything on my car basically too. Anything you buy though make sure it is adjustable so that you can fix issues as they arise. Like LCAs cause if you run a 28inch tall tire it will need to be centered up in the wheel wheel. Panhard bar to center the rear left to right with the new 12bolt. Adjustable trq arm for setting pinion angle.

Coilover setup for drag racing I would suggest Afcos. You can get front and rear coilovers and adjust to your desired ride height. You will need transverse shock mounts in the rear though for Afcos.

How light is the car going to be? N/A car with an aluminum block with some weight taking out? You could easily run a 275lb front spring.

On a side note I have a UMI trq arm forsale, and a UMI drag bar as well.

 

i have third memebers for the 12 bolts my brother has a 9 inch in his car loves its also m6
i will putting in 414 cui gmmp lsx so i am wondering if the 300# springs will suffice the extra weight from the iron

it will be a full bodied trans am i have had lsx cars before first f bod and love i had 81 malibu with 396 cui lsx and it ran 10.9 and was daily driven while going to school
but the suspension was a little differnt no struts in front

i am going for the drag style look will be 28. 10.50.15 i like umi products also have you run the afcos i will be occasionally driving the car on the street to local ricer bashes

 

also i am looking for adjustability

 

Hey fastazz. Our house car has a similar drivetrain (you'll love it!). When I get to my PC and off this tiny phone screen I'll send you the specs on what our car uses. Tunnel mounted torque arm, front coil overs, relocation brackets and a pancake flat launch drag bar. Be with you in a few...

 

Oh, and you guys above, thanks for the UMI shout outs. We have some awesome and fast customers for sure. It's actually all you guys and girls that make our sport great.

 

Yea my car is a full street car and I run Afcos in all four corners. I drive my car 4hrs to the track run 10.50s and drive it home.

Who doesn't like going to the local ricer bashers either? LOL

 

so with the afcos do you weld in the transverse shock mnounts and does anybody have pictures of this setup also looking to run mid 10s

like to see the flat drag bar if possilble thanks guys really appreciate all the help

and in miami its all excotics and tuners down here so i have to show them some detroit muscle lol when i had my malibu ran one guy in a lambo and he was devasted that a car that was 25 yrs old kicked his 240k itailan pos gm for life

 

Yea you just weld or someone shops make in bolt in transverse shock mounts. I have both a drag bar and a trq arm forsale if your interested.

 

OK, fastazz, I'm back on my real PC.

For forward traction I'll go in order: LCA relocation brackets are the first way to increase forward bite. They point the LCA's down toward the rear.

http://www.umiperformance.com/catalo...Path=7_138_108

For LCA's, the main thing is increased rigidity from the actual LCA and improved consistency from upgraded bushings. Roto-joint/Rod end > Poly>Rubber. Both improved styles keep the suspension moving only in the intended plane instead of all over the place. Adjustable is just that, solids can work fine.

http://www.umiperformance.com/catalo...roducts_id=351

Next in the launch equation is the tunnel mounted torque arm. Instant center adjustment (back and up) enhances forward traction.

http://www.umiperformance.com/catalo...roducts_id=209

Finally, a drag bar helps your car launch flat. As we add power, the car tends to torque out of shape and dart to the side. By adding a drag bar you can eliminate that and also improve further by preloading (much the same way as an air bag).

http://www.umiperformance.com/catalo...roducts_id=326

The street problem with the drag bar is the high RR wheel rate makes it very loose on long sweeping corners. Our car will dump the back and at 60 mph just by adding throttle. You can still drive it quickly on the street but be aware of exit ramps, etc.

Our car has a QA1 coilover kit on the front with 275's. Double adjustables allow you to soften the extension until you're happy with the weight transfer and also adjust how the car lands when the nose settles. Drop it too hard and it can unload the rear a few hundred feet out - depending on how long you can carry the front of course.

http://www.umiperformance.com/catalo...Path=7_110_159

http://www.umiperformance.com/catalo...roducts_id=186

You should put as much SFC in it as you can stand. We have two and three point. These help everything work better.

http://www.umiperformance.com/catalo...roducts_id=196

Give us a call and we can customize a package. Or hit me up on here.

Depending on what we do, you can safely and progressively make a nice street car with awesome drag tendencies or we can make you drag worthy with reasonable street...

Good luck.

ramey

 

thanks ramey i will be dropping in my new powerplant in a coulpe of months do you guys have tubular k members for a reasonable price with motor mounts

also i looking to build a drag car with some tame street manners and sorry for not getting back to rite away also on phone at work fixing other peoples hot rods and dreaming about mine lol

 

We do offer a pretty awesome tubular k-member. If you check our site you can see how tough it is: http://www.umiperformance.com/news/?p=373

Depending on engine configuration: http://www.umiperformance.com/catalo...Path=7_137_104

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Ramey

 

yea i read the whole story pretty awesome equipment i will be doing business with you guys and even got my brother to start wanting to change out his factory components

like i said my engine combo is 414 cui on a 275 shot of nitrous the block is iron so when
i am rady to drop the engine in i will buy the tubular k member also upper and lower control arms Do you guys make all these components we talked about in black

 

Other than the QA1 stuff we make it all in Philipsburg, PA. We start with raw tube, cut, CNC machine, weld, blast, and powder coat. We have some serious craftsmen and women. It's funny when our welders complain about a 1/64 gap since we CNC everything. And our assemblers polish everything before bubble wrapping it since they don't want a smudge on anything.

Thanks a bunch for considering UMI for your suspension needs.

Ramey

 

also does qa1 have bolt in rear coil over kit and there will be no consideration of suspension components its really cool for you to help me i am a 20 yr mechanic and trying to learn everything i can stopped going to college to work on cars and i appreciate everything you have suggested and have heard great things about umi components so it will be my choice for now on

 

Thanks man. Much appreciated. I asked 4 million and seven questions when I was your age. That's how you learn and excel at mechanic/racing/repair work. Absorb any knowledge you can. Read every magazine you can. Read every book you can. I read every Circle Track, Hot Rod, Car Craft, Stock Car and Open Wheel mag I could get my hands on. I still ask a lot of questions come to think of it...

QA1 is mostly front coilover kits. The 4th Gens usually run stock location rear springs. Our in-house drag 4th Gen has stock location springs.

more soon

ramey