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De-coupled torque arm. Any experience out there?

Old 02-27-2012, 11:22 AM
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http://www.unbalancedengineering.com/Camaro/TA/

The idea I get from it is to act like a short torque arm under accelleration and act like no torque arm under decelleration
Old 02-27-2012, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ricks4genshianne
What does it do? What does it feel like? Was it worth the money? Is it worth the time? How adamantly would you endorse the torque arm?
I honestly couldnt tell you if its any better then the others because this is the only one Ive used. I bought my car from a MOD on frrax.com already completely set up, its by far the best handling car Ive ever driven.

http://www.unbalancedengineering.com/Camaro/TA/
Old 02-27-2012, 10:41 PM
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If your looking for a handling/braking improvement the UE torque arm is for that.
If your looking for a launch/traction a regular short torque arm is wht you should get.
When "decoupled" it is for braking improvements primarily, but also acts as a short arm "coupled".
Doesn't sound like your trying to build an auto x/road race car?
Even if I was building one this would be one of the last pieces I'd consider.
Old 02-29-2012, 07:14 PM
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ok. Consider it...but really late into the build. Thank you all.
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Now I'm having serious thoughts on putting one of these on my car...
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Originally Posted by wrencher
If your looking for a handling/braking improvement the UE torque arm is for that.
If your looking for a launch/traction a regular short torque arm is wht you should get.
When "decoupled" it is for braking improvements primarily, but also acts as a short arm "coupled".
Doesn't sound like your trying to build an auto x/road race car?
Even if I was building one this would be one of the last pieces I'd consider.
FTW. Good info.
Old 06-27-2012, 08:47 AM
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I just bit the bullet and put in an order for one of these. Now we'll see how well it works for my setup in the spec drags.
Old 06-27-2012, 09:03 AM
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Can you do me a solid and let me know what you think of the piece? I'd also appreciate any lessons learned from installing it.
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I'll try not to F it up. I'll be doing a lot of reading on frrax in the next upcoming weeks as far as setup is concerned.
Old 07-26-2012, 12:21 PM
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It just arrived. I will run my local driving event without it next weekend. After that I will install it (or attempt to) and run it in the Labor Day show event. This way I'll have somewhat of a comparison without a big different in time period.
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Much appreciated, Bryan. Looking forward to your thoughts and notes.
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The install (attempt) is underway. Hoping to get it in there by this weekend's local spectator drags event. I may not have it setup perfectly but hopefully I can at least give it a test.

I'm REALLY hoping it helps improve my launches. I'm horrible at consistently launching my car.
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I was also on a stock LCA setup lowered on Strano's. The downward angle was a bit extreme and I heard you don't want a lot of roll steer on the UETA. So I installed some LCA relo brackets and got them in the middle hole. It's pretty close to level now.. not perfect but close. Also put in rod/rod LCAs to eliminate any bushing play factor.

This is all basically to prevent the UETA arm from getting on the side of the safety loop. The guideline seems to be to stay away from stock star shaped bushings when using the UETA.. so I just went right for rod/rod ends.
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subscribed. Thanks for the updates z28bryan.

I'm very interested to see how this works out for you. If you drive the car a lot on the street, you may hate the rod ends - I do.

You are still running stock LCAs?
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Originally Posted by 01 ss vert
subscribed. Thanks for the updates z28bryan.

I'm very interested to see how this works out for you. If you drive the car a lot on the street, you may hate the rod ends - I do.

You are still running stock LCAs?
Yes I've been running stock LCA's for my 8 years of racing.

I drove a little bit, but I only noticed a little more noise. Keep in mind this is after first install and I've heard rod ends can loosen up over time, so Id imagine noise probably gets louder when they loosen. My car is generally a bit loud since I have heads/cam. Ever since I got them, I've noticed less squeaks and rattles.. probably because I don't hear them. I don't drive my car daily, but I wouldnt call it a dedicated race car either.
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I would like one, but can't pull the trigger due to the price.
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I ran a Spohn decoupled tq arm for 7 years on my 97 Z, it was night n day on the car! I build a road car and had my whole suspension set right. Everyone loved it and was amazed! I'm puttin one on the 99 SS I just picked up, I swear by them! Brakeing is improved big time when you throw an upgrade on there as well! Hope that helps.
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Originally Posted by bigdaddybones30
I ran a Spohn decoupled tq arm for 7 years on my 97 Z, it was night n day on the car! I build a road car and had my whole suspension set right. Everyone loved it and was amazed! I'm puttin one on the 99 SS I just picked up, I swear by them! Brakeing is improved big time when you throw an upgrade on there as well! Hope that helps.
Thanks for sharing. Seems like a good upgrade. Do you have a link? I can't find it here: http://www.spohn.net/shop/1998-2002-...n/Torque-Arms/
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One thing is for sure, it's not a perfectly simple bolt-on part. You need to drill some holes through the floor in a few spots. I had to trim a few washers to clear some spots. I had to widen a hole or two on the provided pieces because they wouldnt line up with a few holes. That's what you have to deal with though with the inconsistent tolerances of the fbody.
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its on! launches feel awesome! I guess this is what its like to have a short torque arm

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