Founder Performance
He tried to explain to me that only their torque arm will have articulation capability and that it will use a different bushing on the crossmember.... But my UMI torque arm is round on the end, unlike the stock torque arm that's shaped like the number 3. The round end of the UMI torque arm will allow articulation, and fore/aft movement. Either he's not familiar with UMIs products, or he has some wildly different mount planned.
The short, tunnel mount torque arm does have two round poly bushings and side plates and a case can be made that it doesn't articulate as much as the round nose style. The good thing is, these are usually used for street and strip instead of auto-x/road race, and therefore the point is moot. Also, a 3800 lb car has no trouble twisting a poly bushing anyway...
Teching In
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From: Dallas Tx
Finally ordered their lower control arms, relocation brackets, panhard rod, sfc, and strut tower brace on the 8th.. Anyone know if they are out for spring break or something?.? I've been calling daily to check the status and never get an answer..
ya thats all we ever hear is 2-3 months im sorry i dont think it takes that long to get bushings in...
im about to order umi tq
if founders doesnt come out by the time umi has another sell ill just order umi
im about to order umi tq
if founders doesnt come out by the time umi has another sell ill just order umi
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Hate to bump this old thread but I have a question about the founder performance relocation rod kit would work wwith a car running the kooks true dual setup? Cheaper than i thought!!!
http://www.foundersperformance.com/p...elocation-kit/
http://www.foundersperformance.com/p...elocation-kit/
Staging Lane
Joined: Feb 2013
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From: Gainesville,GA
So who hear has the founders TQ arm and what do you think they look and feel stronger then the sphoon. i have heard that it is the strongest on the market. if its anything like there other products i definitely want one
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Hate to bump this old thread but I have a question about the founder performance relocation rod kit would work wwith a car running the kooks true dual setup? Cheaper than i thought!!!
http://www.foundersperformance.com/p...elocation-kit/
http://www.foundersperformance.com/p...elocation-kit/
I've got maybe 1/4" of clerance between the upper PHB support and the over-axle tubes but could probably have much more if I wasn't lowered.
So...overall no fitment issues.
To be quite honest, I'd spend (and have) twice the price for the UMI stuff. These guys have heavily supported us for years. They even went out on a limb and designed an entirely new road race k member for the auto cross and road race guys with input from their engineers and forums engineers. They truly seem to want to make a product we want to buy.
I have nothing negative to say about Founders, but I'm willing to spend my money to support the guys that have supported us for more than a decade.
I have nothing negative to say about Founders, but I'm willing to spend my money to support the guys that have supported us for more than a decade.
To be quite honest, I'd spend (and have) twice the price for the UMI stuff. These guys have heavily supported us for years. They even went out on a limb and designed an entirely new road race k member for the auto cross and road race guys with input from their engineers and forums engineers. They truly seem to want to make a product we want to buy.
I have nothing negative to say about Founders, but I'm willing to spend my money to support the guys that have supported us for more than a decade.
I have nothing negative to say about Founders, but I'm willing to spend my money to support the guys that have supported us for more than a decade.
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Well my friend it's business. If someone makes a product equal in strength for half the price you would waste money and buy the more expensive product? Do what u want just makes no sense imo. New vendors come and go all the time, doesn't mean we have to buy from the ones that have been around. I've got friends running both umi and myself running all founders in the rear, no issues and we both drive our cars hard.
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i dont think that was his point. it was about being loyal to a vendor who has helped in the past. it is also about product testing and how it is designed. i have been to couple events where i have seen umi, bmr, dse running their cars hard on the track. these companies test their products and prove it in front of us. running your control arms hard on an exit ramp to me doesn't justify hard driving as you say. i dont have anything against founders, i dont know them but to me it is copied product being sold for less, no r&d means you can sell cheaper, it is that simple. if you want to shop souly on price, that is your choice. i like to buy who has proven the best, granted their price isn't way out of wack.
Teching In
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I just ordered a Founders Torque arm and was told it will work with UMI, BMR and other relocation brackets. I have Founders suspension parts on my 3 gen and will be getting them for my 4 gen ws6. Have been very happy with them. I did go with UMI for my 3 gen SFC.
I have a Founders TA on my S60 and used a UMI relocation bracket and they worked fine. I had the same concern when I decided on Founders for my TA. You may notice some frequent clunking and and rumbling as the arm bangs around in the tranny tunny unless you do some hammering.
