Strano Springs ride height?
04-22-2013, 07:07 AM
#43
send them back or call Sam up and see what he can do for you. But it definately is not cool to buy lowering springs and your car doesn't get any lower.
Last edited by sscamaroburn02; 04-22-2013 at 01:18 PM.
04-22-2013, 11:14 AM
#44
04-22-2013, 12:53 PM
#45
Unfortunately, I cannot guarantee ride height. It's clear that my springs lower cars.
Given the vastly different ride heights the cars come with stock (a lot), the fact that some folks have cut stock springs, or run other springs and their starting point is not always the same. For every 100 sets that go out of here there seems to be 1 or 2 cars that just don't drop much in the nose relative to where they started. Do you have "before" measurements? Last time this happened the guy swore the car was higher than what he had before (other lowering springs). When he sent me pics of before and after (with measurements) it turns out mine were actually lower at both ends, it just looked different because the gaps changed.
I'm not denying the car is high. But it's high all around too which makes me wonder what is going on and I think the bars are sticking or something. I'm also looking at the angle of the front bar endlink and it's odd. A bar can be too tight in it's mounts, or the endlinks can be too tight which binds the suspension (and it'll ride worse too). Did you try disconnecting the links to see if that changes anything?
The higher gas pressure does of the shocks can "prop" the car up a bit vs. the low-pressure Koni's. Could be the perch height is slightly taller too (not that I've ever noticed.
The springs are made in batches of 240 at a time (that's 120 cars sets), on a CNC coiler from one continuous spool of wire. They are all checked for free length and then cycled. I just looked and in the last year I've sold 804 sets. Those came in over the course of 7 different order/production runs. This is not a spring issue.
Given that the only time we have issues like this is with Bilstein's, and only lately, I'm wondering if they position of the spring perch height has changed.
I can't just take them back because they aren't defective. The car is lower than it was from what I can tell based on the original pictures and where the bumper to fender line intersects the top of the SS wheel. I get it's maybe not low enough, but I think we might find that it's more related to Bilstein's than the springs (given that the issue seems only to exist that way on a few cars, clearly there are cars pictured in this thread that aren't that high on other shocks).
Given the vastly different ride heights the cars come with stock (a lot), the fact that some folks have cut stock springs, or run other springs and their starting point is not always the same. For every 100 sets that go out of here there seems to be 1 or 2 cars that just don't drop much in the nose relative to where they started. Do you have "before" measurements? Last time this happened the guy swore the car was higher than what he had before (other lowering springs). When he sent me pics of before and after (with measurements) it turns out mine were actually lower at both ends, it just looked different because the gaps changed.
I'm not denying the car is high. But it's high all around too which makes me wonder what is going on and I think the bars are sticking or something. I'm also looking at the angle of the front bar endlink and it's odd. A bar can be too tight in it's mounts, or the endlinks can be too tight which binds the suspension (and it'll ride worse too). Did you try disconnecting the links to see if that changes anything?
The higher gas pressure does of the shocks can "prop" the car up a bit vs. the low-pressure Koni's. Could be the perch height is slightly taller too (not that I've ever noticed.
The springs are made in batches of 240 at a time (that's 120 cars sets), on a CNC coiler from one continuous spool of wire. They are all checked for free length and then cycled. I just looked and in the last year I've sold 804 sets. Those came in over the course of 7 different order/production runs. This is not a spring issue.
Given that the only time we have issues like this is with Bilstein's, and only lately, I'm wondering if they position of the spring perch height has changed.
I can't just take them back because they aren't defective. The car is lower than it was from what I can tell based on the original pictures and where the bumper to fender line intersects the top of the SS wheel. I get it's maybe not low enough, but I think we might find that it's more related to Bilstein's than the springs (given that the issue seems only to exist that way on a few cars, clearly there are cars pictured in this thread that aren't that high on other shocks).
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04-22-2013, 01:04 PM
#46
Well I guess I'll cross alignment of the list.
Okay, when you installed the shock/spring assembly did the lower shock mount/ control arm bolt holes line up easily allowing easy install of the mount bolts; or did you encounter some difficulty getting the bolt hole to line up and install the mount bolts?
Okay, when you installed the shock/spring assembly did the lower shock mount/ control arm bolt holes line up easily allowing easy install of the mount bolts; or did you encounter some difficulty getting the bolt hole to line up and install the mount bolts?
04-22-2013, 01:18 PM
#47
Anybody with bilsteins and strano springs that have been bought recently. Post up your pics and maybe it is the shocks. All the pics in this thread were with other shocks. hmm...interesting...
04-22-2013, 02:15 PM
#49
Unfortunately, I cannot guarantee ride height. It's clear that my springs lower cars.
Given the vastly different ride heights the cars come with stock (a lot), the fact that some folks have cut stock springs, or run other springs and their starting point is not always the same. For every 100 sets that go out of here there seems to be 1 or 2 cars that just don't drop much in the nose relative to where they started. Do you have "before" measurements? Last time this happened the guy swore the car was higher than what he had before (other lowering springs). When he sent me pics of before and after (with measurements) it turns out mine were actually lower at both ends, it just looked different because the gaps changed.
I'm not denying the car is high. But it's high all around too which makes me wonder what is going on and I think the bars are sticking or something. I'm also looking at the angle of the front bar endlink and it's odd. A bar can be too tight in it's mounts, or the endlinks can be too tight which binds the suspension (and it'll ride worse too). Did you try disconnecting the links to see if that changes anything?
The higher gas pressure does of the shocks can "prop" the car up a bit vs. the low-pressure Koni's. Could be the perch height is slightly taller too (not that I've ever noticed.
The springs are made in batches of 240 at a time (that's 120 cars sets), on a CNC coiler from one continuous spool of wire. They are all checked for free length and then cycled. I just looked and in the last year I've sold 804 sets. Those came in over the course of 7 different order/production runs. This is not a spring issue.
Given that the only time we have issues like this is with Bilstein's, and only lately, I'm wondering if they position of the spring perch height has changed.
I can't just take them back because they aren't defective. The car is lower than it was from what I can tell based on the original pictures and where the bumper to fender line intersects the top of the SS wheel. I get it's maybe not low enough, but I think we might find that it's more related to Bilstein's than the springs (given that the issue seems only to exist that way on a few cars, clearly there are cars pictured in this thread that aren't that high on other shocks).
Given the vastly different ride heights the cars come with stock (a lot), the fact that some folks have cut stock springs, or run other springs and their starting point is not always the same. For every 100 sets that go out of here there seems to be 1 or 2 cars that just don't drop much in the nose relative to where they started. Do you have "before" measurements? Last time this happened the guy swore the car was higher than what he had before (other lowering springs). When he sent me pics of before and after (with measurements) it turns out mine were actually lower at both ends, it just looked different because the gaps changed.
I'm not denying the car is high. But it's high all around too which makes me wonder what is going on and I think the bars are sticking or something. I'm also looking at the angle of the front bar endlink and it's odd. A bar can be too tight in it's mounts, or the endlinks can be too tight which binds the suspension (and it'll ride worse too). Did you try disconnecting the links to see if that changes anything?
The higher gas pressure does of the shocks can "prop" the car up a bit vs. the low-pressure Koni's. Could be the perch height is slightly taller too (not that I've ever noticed.
The springs are made in batches of 240 at a time (that's 120 cars sets), on a CNC coiler from one continuous spool of wire. They are all checked for free length and then cycled. I just looked and in the last year I've sold 804 sets. Those came in over the course of 7 different order/production runs. This is not a spring issue.
Given that the only time we have issues like this is with Bilstein's, and only lately, I'm wondering if they position of the spring perch height has changed.
I can't just take them back because they aren't defective. The car is lower than it was from what I can tell based on the original pictures and where the bumper to fender line intersects the top of the SS wheel. I get it's maybe not low enough, but I think we might find that it's more related to Bilstein's than the springs (given that the issue seems only to exist that way on a few cars, clearly there are cars pictured in this thread that aren't that high on other shocks).
As I stated in my previous post I removed the sway bar completely (drove around on it for a while) and it did not move a centimeter. In the pics, if you look, the sway bar end links are as loose as it will be either out the nut coming off, so end links being too tight is not the issue.
I did not take measurements before when it was stock. I'm sorry but anyone who looks at the original picture (the day I bought the car 2 yrs old) and compares it to the most recent pic (taken over the weekend, 5 months after installing) can see that the car did not move at all. Draw a line from the fender to the bumper line and it is clear as day that it crosses the exact same spot on the wheel. This is not like it dropped a half inch and its just not "low enough" for me. It didn't move at all. If it did drop any, it is not "enough" for the human eye to tell. (what..1/8" drop?)
So since I cannot return them, since they are not defective, what are my options?? All I know is there is no way in hell I am dropping another $500 for lowered a-arms to get the ~1.2" drop the struts/springs should have given me. ($620)
04-22-2013, 02:19 PM
#50
Well I guess I'll cross alignment of the list.
Okay, when you installed the shock/spring assembly did the lower shock mount/ control arm bolt holes line up easily allowing easy install of the mount bolts; or did you encounter some difficulty getting the bolt hole to line up and install the mount bolts?
Okay, when you installed the shock/spring assembly did the lower shock mount/ control arm bolt holes line up easily allowing easy install of the mount bolts; or did you encounter some difficulty getting the bolt hole to line up and install the mount bolts?
Did you guys keep the insert that lays inside the lower perch or did you guys remove it and just sit the spring on it?
04-22-2013, 02:24 PM
#51
Yes I am 100% sure the stock springs were not cut. The original owner, whom I bought the car from, was 60 yrs old when he bought it and did not touch anything on the car. He didn't even know much about the car when I talked to him on the phone. haha He just drove it on the weekends and to church. Every upgrade on the car has been by me.
04-22-2013, 02:57 PM
#54
I would be curious what the measurement from the bottom mounting point to the perch is on other shocks vs the Bilsteins. I have a set of Bilsteins (not installed yet) that I could measure, if someone has something else (Koni?) to measure for comparison's sake. Also might help to make sure that Camarokid's don't have a flaw there. Although this wouldn't affect the rear.
04-22-2013, 03:36 PM
#56
I would be curious what the measurement from the bottom mounting point to the perch is on other shocks vs the Bilsteins. I have a set of Bilsteins (not installed yet) that I could measure, if someone has something else (Koni?) to measure for comparison's sake. Also might help to make sure that Camarokid's don't have a flaw there. Although this wouldn't affect the rear.
04-22-2013, 04:23 PM
#58
TECH Apprentice
27 Front 27 1/4 Rear
Brand new, bought beginning of March.
Strano Springs and Bilsteins.
My previous setup was all worn out and horrid. I double checked the measurements and the front sits lower. I love the ride and everything. No issues. All new spring perches and insulators, new A-Arm bushings, newish A-arm mounts, so prob will lower a little I say, I don't have many miles on the new setup, did a cam swap and a bunch of other things so til money recoups the cruising is long distances on KY back roads.
Brand new, bought beginning of March.
Strano Springs and Bilsteins.
My previous setup was all worn out and horrid. I double checked the measurements and the front sits lower. I love the ride and everything. No issues. All new spring perches and insulators, new A-Arm bushings, newish A-arm mounts, so prob will lower a little I say, I don't have many miles on the new setup, did a cam swap and a bunch of other things so til money recoups the cruising is long distances on KY back roads.