Titanium Control Arms
05-26-2004, 09:52 AM
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Ok guys, seriously, I know weight is imporant, but a few pounds 
My steel tubular LCAs w/poly weigh 7.5 lbs, they claim a set of Alum rod ended weight 4.5lbs, thats three pounds difference, thats it
I know when it comes to serious drag racing every pound counts, but our daily drivers, are you ever going to notice 3 or 4 lbs? Most of us stop at Mcdonalds on are way to the track anyhow and eat a supersized double quater pounder meal, thats at least 2-3 lbs, but you never thought about that?
IMO- Just having some fun
My steel tubular LCAs w/poly weigh 7.5 lbs, they claim a set of Alum rod ended weight 4.5lbs, thats three pounds difference, thats it
I know when it comes to serious drag racing every pound counts, but our daily drivers, are you ever going to notice 3 or 4 lbs? Most of us stop at Mcdonalds on are way to the track anyhow and eat a supersized double quater pounder meal, thats at least 2-3 lbs, but you never thought about that?
IMO- Just having some fun
05-26-2004, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 2w0s060
I know when it comes to serious drag racing every pound counts, but our daily drivers, are you ever going to notice 3 or 4 lbs? Most of us stop at Mcdonalds on are way to the track anyhow and eat a supersized double quater pounder meal, thats at least 2-3 lbs, but you never thought about that?
IMO- Just having some fun
IMO- Just having some fun
Remember, salad=speed.
I could spend thousands to remove 75 lbs from my car, or I can remove 75 lbs from my driver (the lightweight driver mod) for much less. I guess I better get started.
05-26-2004, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by John95Z28
Titanium does oxidize, but not in the sense of forming rust (iron oxide) and eventually falling apart. They could be left unfinished, but would have looked much nicer if they were powdercoated.
Waste of money IMO. I'd just get a set of 1LE control arms, unless you're into heavy duty racing.
Waste of money IMO. I'd just get a set of 1LE control arms, unless you're into heavy duty racing.
05-26-2004, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by trackbird
Remember, salad=speed.
I could spend thousands to remove 75 lbs from my car, or I can remove 75 lbs from my driver (the lightweight driver mod) for much less. I guess I better get started.
I could spend thousands to remove 75 lbs from my car, or I can remove 75 lbs from my driver (the lightweight driver mod) for much less. I guess I better get started.
05-26-2004, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 2w0s060
Ok guys, seriously, I know weight is imporant, but a few pounds
My steel tubular LCAs w/poly weigh 7.5 lbs, they claim a set of Alum rod ended weight 4.5lbs, thats three pounds difference, thats it
I know when it comes to serious drag racing every pound counts, but our daily drivers, are you ever going to notice 3 or 4 lbs? Most of us stop at Mcdonalds on are way to the track anyhow and eat a supersized double quater pounder meal, thats at least 2-3 lbs, but you never thought about that?
IMO- Just having some fun
My steel tubular LCAs w/poly weigh 7.5 lbs, they claim a set of Alum rod ended weight 4.5lbs, thats three pounds difference, thats it
I know when it comes to serious drag racing every pound counts, but our daily drivers, are you ever going to notice 3 or 4 lbs? Most of us stop at Mcdonalds on are way to the track anyhow and eat a supersized double quater pounder meal, thats at least 2-3 lbs, but you never thought about that?
IMO- Just having some fun
Depending on where it is at you could easily notice a difference.
Unsprung weight (parts not supported by the springs) reductions tend to be very noticable. It is believed that for every 1 LB of "unsprung" weight removed from the vehicle is equal to removing 3lbs of "sprung" weight as far as acceleration is concerned.
Reciprocating weight,things that muct be accelerated twice such as a rotor are generally believed to equal 10lb per 1 or more.
Parts within the engine and transmission are believed to show the largest benefits when lightened. Gains similar to 15lbs per 1 removed have been claimed.
I recall reading an article on this subject in the past couple of years. I can't remember where though.
Weight reduction of any kind (especially in the engine and suspension) will allow an automobiles systems to react much more quickly to changing conditions.As you can imagine this is extremely benficial to a vehicle used for roadracing.
Componenets such as brakes,clutches,etc. will last longer with a lighter weight vehicle.
CofG as well as many other things are affected by where the weight is. In some instances 15lbs ofweight can be removed from one area and 25lbs added to another and you will see gains at the track.
Believe it or not every ounce counts. Japanese engineers will work months to remove 300gms from a motorcycle.
05-26-2004, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Cheatin' Chad
Depending on where it is at you could easily notice a difference.
Unsprung weight (parts not supported by the springs) reductions tend to be very noticable. It is believed that for every 1 LB of "unsprung" weight removed from the vehicle is equal to removing 3lbs of "sprung" weight as far as acceleration is concerned.
Reciprocating weight,things that muct be accelerated twice such as a rotor are generally believed to equal 10lb per 1 or more.
Parts within the engine and transmission are believed to show the largest benefits when lightened. Gains similar to 15lbs per 1 removed have been claimed.
I recall reading an article on this subject in the past couple of years. I can't remember where though.
Weight reduction of any kind (especially in the engine and suspension) will allow an automobiles systems to react much more quickly to changing conditions.As you can imagine this is extremely benficial to a vehicle used for roadracing.
Componenets such as brakes,clutches,etc. will last longer with a lighter weight vehicle.
CofG as well as many other things are affected by where the weight is. In some instances 15lbs ofweight can be removed from one area and 25lbs added to another and you will see gains at the track.
Believe it or not every ounce counts. Japanese engineers will work months to remove 300gms from a motorcycle.
Unsprung weight (parts not supported by the springs) reductions tend to be very noticable. It is believed that for every 1 LB of "unsprung" weight removed from the vehicle is equal to removing 3lbs of "sprung" weight as far as acceleration is concerned.
Reciprocating weight,things that muct be accelerated twice such as a rotor are generally believed to equal 10lb per 1 or more.
Parts within the engine and transmission are believed to show the largest benefits when lightened. Gains similar to 15lbs per 1 removed have been claimed.
I recall reading an article on this subject in the past couple of years. I can't remember where though.
Weight reduction of any kind (especially in the engine and suspension) will allow an automobiles systems to react much more quickly to changing conditions.As you can imagine this is extremely benficial to a vehicle used for roadracing.
Componenets such as brakes,clutches,etc. will last longer with a lighter weight vehicle.
CofG as well as many other things are affected by where the weight is. In some instances 15lbs ofweight can be removed from one area and 25lbs added to another and you will see gains at the track.
Believe it or not every ounce counts. Japanese engineers will work months to remove 300gms from a motorcycle.
I beleive you also need to be careful on suspension items, lighter isnt always better if the strength inst there.
Thanks for the good info
05-26-2004, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Kent1
Will someone take the time to anwer my original question....please......if you know the answer........tks
(the Titanium LCAs) I searched the forums, but no mention.
Are they worth the $250?
No, not worth it. There are better ways to spend your $250 IMO
05-26-2004, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 2w0s060
That was good and detailed, I can understand where the weight does matter, dont get me wrong, I was just having some fun.
I beleive you also need to be careful on suspension items, lighter isnt always better if the strength inst there.
Thanks for the good info
I beleive you also need to be careful on suspension items, lighter isnt always better if the strength inst there.
Thanks for the good info
I agree w/ watching the weight cutting in certain areas. It just doesn't make sense in some areas. Suspension and braking are two places I am very leery of cutting weight. I think you should put alot of thought into cutting items that could result in serious injury. If you cut too much out of a crank your engine will blow. If you cut too much off of your rotors you could die.
05-27-2004, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 98_1LE
I think the LG aluminum tubular LCA's with rod ends would be the lightest. Lou doesn't have them on his site, so you have to call them.
