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Old 08-03-2013, 09:06 PM
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I think my SS out performs its tires. This car is so level in corners it's incredable. I push it a little more every time I drive and to day I almost rolled. I was ****** scared to death. I think I need different wheels and tires. I can hear the tires starting to go. What would you all suggest. I'm using the stock 17'" SS wheels.

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lower it , put new shocks
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I wish it was that easy. What are you saying, sell the SS, time to buy a Corvette or a roll cage

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Slow down....
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1st slow down , second yes its vette time

although i miss my trans am every day
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What rubber do you have?
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From your sig it looks like your suspension set up is good, so most likely your tires or driving.
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Nitto NT05 R
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Originally Posted by baalic
Nitto NT05 R
Big 'ol wrong on that one.
The R is a drag radial, soft sidewalls = poor handling.
Regular NT05 would be a way better choice.
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Can you expand on how it is that you almost rolled? What tires are you running now?
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What tires is the OP on? The best rated tire EVER by Consumer Reports (90 of 100; NT 05 only got a 78 of 100!) is the Michelin Pilot Super Sport -- but you need to graduate to 18" wheels for them on F-Bodies to get 275/35/18. If staying with 17", might want to go with BFG g-Force Sport COMP-2 -- they are also made by Michelin since they're owned by them, and have some similar properties to the Michelin PSS, although not yet rated by CR until this fall update…

Are your SFCs welded? If not, that can further help with rigidity and tracking on your 'Vert.

Looks like you have most all the right stuff, except if you have poly bushings in any place other than the sway bar applications, I would consider replacing them for better articulation…

Don't do anything stupid, and slow it down when you feel unstable. A roll bar would be a wise investment considering this thread topic -- I added a Wolfe 4-pt to my 'Vert (to participate in HPDEs) -- it further stiffened the chassis as well.

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Originally Posted by libertyforall1776
What tires is the OP on? The best rated tire EVER by Consumer Reports (90 of 100; NT 05 only got a 78 of 100!) it the Michelin Pilot Super Sport -- but you need to graduate to 18" wheels for them on F-Bodies to get 275/35/18. If staying with 17", might want to go with BFG g-Force Sport COMP-2 -- they are also made by Michelin since they're owned by them, and have some similar properties to the Michelin PSS, although not yet rated by CR until this fall update…
I have the BFG Comp-2s and they haven't done me wrong yet although they are a summer tire.
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Nittos NT-05's suck I ran 315/35/17 on all four corners for a bit. You shouldn't really fool around on the street some tires give out without any notice then your gone and your car is gone too. Go buy some Hoosiers or Kuhmo V710's and go AX.
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Originally Posted by alexus6798
Slow down....
This.

Cool it in the corners. Sounds to me like you need to be more afraid of your driving than your car
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Originally Posted by libertyforall1776
What tires is the OP on? The best rated tire EVER by Consumer Reports (90 of 100; NT 05 only got a 78 of 100!) is the Michelin Pilot Super Sport -- but you need to graduate to 18" wheels for them on F-Bodies to get 275/35/18. If staying with 17", might want to go with BFG g-Force Sport COMP-2 -- they are also made by Michelin since they're owned by them, and have some similar properties to the Michelin PSS, although not yet rated by CR until this fall update…
I would take that CS report with a couple big grains of salt. The NT-05 was gradded on treadwear and hyroplane resistance. That tire is a shallow tread depth, 200 treadwear, max performance summer street tire. It is not designed to perfrom at **** best in those two tests. It is designed for big lateral grip in warm dry conditions. I drove mine in the rain the other day. It was acceptable, but I knew not to expect too much out of them.

Nittos NT-05's suck I ran 315/35/17 on all four corners for a bit. You shouldn't really fool around on the street some tires give out without any notice then your gone and your car is gone too. Go buy some Hoosiers or Kuhmo V710's and go AX.
By what standard do they suck. I have been very impressed with them. Tons of grip for a street tire. They won't comapre to the two you mention, but those are in a defferent class of tire.
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Originally Posted by SSCamaro99_3
By what standard do they suck. I have been very impressed with them. Tons of grip for a street tire. They won't comapre to the two you mention, but those are in a defferent class of tire.
I think the direzza's are superior in every way as far as street tires go Grip,ride,rain.

My experience with Nt-05s was brief and mostly from a track perspective.
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Is it pushing or over steering? Can you adjust the roll center higher to help plant the tire on turn in?
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Originally Posted by SSCamaro99_3
I would take that CS report with a couple big grains of salt. The NT-05 was gradded on treadwear and hyroplane resistance. That tire is a shallow tread depth, 200 treadwear, max performance summer street tire. It is not designed to perfrom at **** best in those two tests. It is designed for big lateral grip in warm dry conditions. I drove mine in the rain the other day. It was acceptable, but I knew not to expect too much out of them.
How do you figure, unless the car is a dry track-only car? I would imagine the majority of folks here have their car as street first, track second, so other tests matter, and hydroplaning is important if you get caught in a down pour -- PSS is rated tops here vs. halfway for the NT 05… The PSS is rated higher than the NT 05 for dry handling, and the tread life is abominable for the NT 05s -- lowest rating vs. 2nd to highest for the PSS AND they come with a 30k mi. tread wear warranty!
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The Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec tires got the same 78 of 100 that the NT 05 received from CR, but better dry handling than the NT 05. Both are rated the same for wet handling and hydroplaning, with the NT 05 being better for wet braking. Direzza is slightly better for tread life too.

Originally Posted by camarokid91
I think the direzza's are superior in every way as far as street tires go Grip,ride,rain.

My experience with Nt-05s was brief and mostly from a track perspective.
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