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Old Jan 5, 2014 | 09:17 PM
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For those who have experienced hub failures, is this typically the problem? Was out on the track on a hot day and it looks like the plastic casing that houses the wheel speed sensor pulled completely off the hub. Doesn't appear to be repairable...at least they're relatively cheap to replace.

I've heard from others to expect to be replacing these regularly if the car spends a lot of time on road courses and was curious if this is precisely the issue everyone is talking about. What's the rub here? Heat? Dirt?

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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 08:12 AM
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That cover should be permanently installed. Maybe its a dud? How many miles are on it and/or is it your original bearing?
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That cover should be permanently installed. Maybe its a dud? How many miles are on it and/or is it your original bearing?
I was thinking the same because it doesn't look like there's anyway this is going back on.

Yes, that's the original hub with 63,xxx miles (including a few track days) on it.

Going with the Timken hub and a 3-year warranty from AutoZone.
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Old Jan 7, 2014 | 06:44 PM
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That's not bad. It seems that a lot of people have the original hubs go bad in the 75K miles neighborhood.
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I was thinking the same because it doesn't look like there's anyway this is going back on.

Yes, that's the original hub with 63,xxx miles (including a few track days) on it.

Going with the Timken hub and a 3-year warranty from AutoZone.
mine lasted to 92k and then crapped out. I went with the Timken and have had 3 track days on them so far, still in one piece
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Old Jan 8, 2014 | 08:43 PM
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mine lasted to 92k and then crapped out. I went with the Timken and have had 3 track days on them so far, still in one piece
Nice! Glad to hear she's still hanging in there!
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I Tried the Cheap Ebay way first, and after only 1 day at the Track and about 3 hours of track time, i started to get some slop in my steering and the front hubs just didnt feel right, so i went with Timken ones and i could not be happier. I have ARP studs in mine with the CTS-V mod up front, they take the additional force like a champ. I would never get anything else but the Timken ones again, and they usually come with a pretty good warranty
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Originally Posted by trans_am7935
I Tried the Cheap Ebay way first, and after only 1 day at the Track and about 3 hours of track time, i started to get some slop in my steering and the front hubs just didnt feel right, so i went with Timken ones and i could not be happier. I have ARP studs in mine with the CTS-V mod up front, they take the additional force like a champ. I would never get anything else but the Timken ones again, and they usually come with a pretty good warranty
I am curious about this, can you point me to it, please.
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Originally Posted by trans_am7935
I Tried the Cheap Ebay way first, and after only 1 day at the Track and about 3 hours of track time, i started to get some slop in my steering and the front hubs just didnt feel right, so i went with Timken ones and i could not be happier. I have ARP studs in mine with the CTS-V mod up front, they take the additional force like a champ. I would never get anything else but the Timken ones again, and they usually come with a pretty good warranty
The appeal of the Timken to me was the 3-year warranty, however it's great to hear that the quality is also good. Hopefully they will prove to be durable. At this point, I'm just waiting for the weather to cooperate so I can get the hub changed and get back out on the track.
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I am running MOOG hubs, these are the best hubs I have found yet. Much better than the Timken.
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by FASTFATBOY
I am running MOOG hubs, these are the best hubs I have found yet. Much better than the Timken.
I ordered the Moog hubs myself for my suspension & steering rebuild, but I have to ask, what makes them "much better than Timken"?

These are the ones I ordered.

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/more...313&cc=1359288
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Moog and Timken have the same PN and are within $2 of each other on RockAuto... are they the same?
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Never tried the Moog, however the Timken's came with a 3-year warranty from Auto Zone so I'm perfectly fine if their useful life proves to be just short of that! :-)
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Originally Posted by Midnight02
Never tried the Moog, however the Timken's came with a 3-year warranty from Auto Zone so I'm perfectly fine if their useful life proves to be just short of that! :-)
I bought the "Precision" brand from Oreilly's and the MOOG was in the box. It also has a 3 year warranty and was around $120.


I get tired of changing them.

If you track the car hard slack starts messing with the brakes.
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Originally Posted by Rare96LT1Formula
I ordered the Moog hubs myself for my suspension & steering rebuild, but I have to ask, what makes them "much better than Timken"?

These are the ones I ordered.

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/more...313&cc=1359288
The fact that I can make a Timken have slack on the left front after two days(8 sessions) on track on NT-05 tires. Slack starts after the first day on track.

The MOOG now has 6 days (24 sessions) on the left front with almost no slack very very little almost not noticeable at all. 16 of those sessions were run on a Rcomp(slick) tire.

The MOOG in the right front has 2 days(8 sessions) with no slack at all on Rcomp tires.

This is the best bearing I have found so far.

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Old Jan 28, 2014 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by FASTFATBOY
I bought the "Precision" brand from Oreilly's and the MOOG was in the box. It also has a 3 year warranty and was around $120.


I get tired of changing them.

If you track the car hard slack starts messing with the brakes.
That's good feedback.....given that the warranty and pricing is the same, I'm definitely game to try one the next time a need a replacement. Still a couple months out from my next track day so I'm curious how the Timken will hold up.
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Old Jan 28, 2014 | 12:48 PM
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Something worth mentioning also, Moog hubs can be gotten from Advance Auto, which means DISCOUNT CODES for online ordering brings the price down to like 81 bucks each (if you do 2 separate orders, one order per hub and discount code A124 on each order).
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Nice info. I'm doing new tubular A-Arms up front and some other Moog stuff and was going to replace my bearings with the Timken. Guess I'll grab the Moogs there too.
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Originally Posted by Daniel Richards
Something worth mentioning also, Moog hubs can be gotten from Advance Auto, which means DISCOUNT CODES for online ordering brings the price down to like 81 bucks each (if you do 2 separate orders, one order per hub and discount code A124 on each order).
When it goes bad, can you take it back to a local Advance and swap it?

I am already "in" with Oreilly's with mine. Was curious to know this.


I could have gotten them from RockAuto but didnt want to ship/wait etc.
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Nice info. I'm doing new tubular A-Arms up front and some other Moog stuff and was going to replace my bearings with the Timken. Guess I'll grab the Moogs there too.
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