shocks/springs question
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shocks/springs question Hey everyone I'm in need of a new suspension and I was wondering if anyone can give me some feedback on this kit from strano.
http://www.stranoparts.com/partdetails.php?PartID=1021&CategoryID=90&ModelID= 7
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http://www.stranoparts.com/partdetails.php?PartID=1021&CategoryID=90&ModelID= 7
Thanks
I'll not interfere with any other's opinions, please feel free. But if there is anything more specific you want to know I'll do my best to answer.
This is my most recommended more entry level setup, over the Bilstein's. Mostly because Koni's lifetime warranty and warranty service, but also the fact they have a bit better rebound control IMO than the Bilstein's offer.
STR.T's were a long, long time coming, I'm glad they finally made it so we had another option in the sub $400 range, but one I actually prefer vs. some of the others.
This is my most recommended more entry level setup, over the Bilstein's. Mostly because Koni's lifetime warranty and warranty service, but also the fact they have a bit better rebound control IMO than the Bilstein's offer.
STR.T's were a long, long time coming, I'm glad they finally made it so we had another option in the sub $400 range, but one I actually prefer vs. some of the others.
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Ok cool how would you rate the daily drivability of this set up? This is not my DD but I still want decent/good road manners and could this set up cause any issues that I might have with ground clearance and tire rub?
It's great for a lowered car. But I'm not going to lie, lowering springs are NOT for everyone. Most folks like them just fine, and the better the shocks the better the result. Worst case is springs with crappy worn out stock shocks. But the truth is lowering springs are not only lower (meaning the car is lower to the ground, the nose, the headers, etc., but also less working travel). So to counter that we have to up the spring rate. Stiffer springs are just that, stiffer. They don't move as easily as softer taller springs over things. The better the shocks the better the damping is when you hit such sharp bumps.
As for tire rub. Nothing to do with the springs. I wish I could get that persistent internet thinking to stop. The springs might lower the car, but they don't change how far the suspension ultimately moves, the bumpstops do that. And folks love to put bigger wheels and tires on the cars, sometimes ones that just don't leave much room to parts of the body. Bottom line, if you rub with my stuff, you'd rub with any spring, or even stock springs.
As for tire rub. Nothing to do with the springs. I wish I could get that persistent internet thinking to stop. The springs might lower the car, but they don't change how far the suspension ultimately moves, the bumpstops do that. And folks love to put bigger wheels and tires on the cars, sometimes ones that just don't leave much room to parts of the body. Bottom line, if you rub with my stuff, you'd rub with any spring, or even stock springs.
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Ok makes sense I'm mostly just getting rid of any and all possible questions from the looks of it the wheel wells, bump stops, etc should not be a clearence issue the biggest issue would probably be my LT's with a TD's set up with ground clearance correct? They are 3in pipes dumped before the axle
I've just installed that setup, replacing stock springs and KYB adjustables. Night and day difference - this is my DD and now love the way it handles. Definitely a crisper ride, but that is what I want in my Camaro.
I can't speak to clearance. The car will sit 1 to 1.5" lower (lots of variables here lots of stock springs, people mod springs, springs can sag over time). If your headers or exhaust don't fit well and hang low... well maybe there is an issue. But again, that would be an issue period, regardless of what springs you were using, at least in terms of speedbumps and so on. My springs are a good big stiffer in front than some common ones which means in dips and such you get better support from them but dragging that stuff in that situation is pretty rare.
xny1989, I'm glad you like the setup. If you don't mind, can you maybe explain "crisper". I only ask because many people don't understand that you can have it firm or "crisp" and not have it be bone crushing.
OP, if you read post 6 closely, you'll see he had STOCK springs and KYB's and this, to my way of reading is better. It's certainly stiffer, but I bet it ride bad bumps better than what he had before, and that's not even talking about the handling.
xny1989, I'm glad you like the setup. If you don't mind, can you maybe explain "crisper". I only ask because many people don't understand that you can have it firm or "crisp" and not have it be bone crushing.
OP, if you read post 6 closely, you'll see he had STOCK springs and KYB's and this, to my way of reading is better. It's certainly stiffer, but I bet it ride bad bumps better than what he had before, and that's not even talking about the handling.
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I get what you are saying and I know ground clearance is an issue no matter the spring set up when it comes to lowering a car. I pretty sure I'm leaning more towards this set up over others it will just depend on if I can go without tucking the TD's or will I have to get them tucked before I purchase the set up
Thank you xny1989 for your opinion on this set up
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This is one of my former cars... 00 Firehawk w Sam's springs, Bilstein HD's.... I also ran long tubes, 3 in ory and had ZERO clearance issues.. no bounce going over speed bumps etc... Rebound was great.. Also had an adj phr, lca's, sfc's..... Case in point, I liked Sam's set up so much that I purchased it for my recently purchased 01 SS....
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This is one of my former cars... 00 Firehawk w Sam's springs, Bilstein HD's.... I also ran long tubes, 3 in ory and had ZERO clearance issues.. no bounce going over speed bumps etc... Rebound was great.. Also had an adj phr, lca's, sfc's..... Case in point, I liked Sam's set up so much that I purchased it for my recently purchased 01 SS....
And that's my goal around here, to make and KEEP happy customers! I'm glad it works.
That looks awesome, can I use that pic btw???? I need to rotate some stuff through on the website.
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And that's my goal around here, to make and KEEP happy customers! I'm glad it works.
That looks awesome, can I use that pic btw???? I need to rotate some stuff through on the website.
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Please provide "after" pics of that one for comparison! Sam
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Definition of "crisper" ride. I guess I mean that the car now more firmly follows the contour of the road without floating. Firmer might be a better term then. I also feel that the car does not jump around like it used to on bumpy roads with the stock springs and KYB's. I hope that answers your question Sam.
Absolutely does xny1989. That's the kind of detail I like others to see. Mostly that it's firm and controlled but actually less harsh and better planted than before, even with stiffer springs.
Thank you for taking the time.
Thank you for taking the time.
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I went with Sam's 550 front and 150 rear springs and Koni SA's. Amazing over the stock stuff and I only had 57K mi on my car at the time so my suspension was not as beat to hell as someone with 120K mi...
I have PS L/T's, PS midpipe (with cheap U-bolt clamps), SLP bolt on SFC's. On VERY harsh swooping highway abutment points I have gotten the front ait dam to scrap going 70mph....while not a typical situation for me, it caught me by surprise...
Worst thing will be tall speed bumps which I can go over at and angle. Typically my Ubolt header to midpipe connections will scrape on speed bumps. I'm going to switch to a GOOD 1" wide band clamp style to gain that LITTLE bit of clearance and also rid myself of the same indentation in the pipes...
I also DD mine in everything except heavy snowfall or really crappy winter roads. It will be noticeably stiffer and firmer, but not teeth jarring. I autocross my car every chance I get so everything I put on my car has a purpose and I like this combo for DD and autox.
I have PS L/T's, PS midpipe (with cheap U-bolt clamps), SLP bolt on SFC's. On VERY harsh swooping highway abutment points I have gotten the front ait dam to scrap going 70mph....while not a typical situation for me, it caught me by surprise...
Worst thing will be tall speed bumps which I can go over at and angle. Typically my Ubolt header to midpipe connections will scrape on speed bumps. I'm going to switch to a GOOD 1" wide band clamp style to gain that LITTLE bit of clearance and also rid myself of the same indentation in the pipes...
I also DD mine in everything except heavy snowfall or really crappy winter roads. It will be noticeably stiffer and firmer, but not teeth jarring. I autocross my car every chance I get so everything I put on my car has a purpose and I like this combo for DD and autox.
I'm considering autocross next season - just have to get rid of a couple of annoying leaks - pinion seal and steering rack. I feel that the shock tower brace (SLP), bolt-in subframe connectors, square tubing rear control arms are finally appreciated over stock.
Pinion seal leaks are super common on these things. Not that it should be leaking, but it looks worse than it is.
Autocross is a lot of fun if you want to see what you can do and what your car can do. It's safe, it's cheap, etc. I love my track time too, but the two are quite different. I push much harder at autocross than anything because the risk is lower. Also times are more about handling and driving than on a road course, where more power matters... it's not as pure a handling test. Which, is why, I believe in autocross to help sort out handling of cars because that's what it is.
Autocross is a lot of fun if you want to see what you can do and what your car can do. It's safe, it's cheap, etc. I love my track time too, but the two are quite different. I push much harder at autocross than anything because the risk is lower. Also times are more about handling and driving than on a road course, where more power matters... it's not as pure a handling test. Which, is why, I believe in autocross to help sort out handling of cars because that's what it is.
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Put a good set of shocks/springs, sway bars, and a panhard bar on a 4th gen and you've got a cheap(er) very good handling car - the tires.