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Old Aug 27, 2015 | 11:29 AM
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I agree, all you can do is make a statement that your watts link lowers the roll center roughly 3.75 on stock weight, stock height car. It's up to the customer and you to figure out their specific value.
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Old Aug 27, 2015 | 02:17 PM
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So all these questions about our watts links, who's ready to order one?
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Old Aug 28, 2015 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by smitty2919
A watts link is a watts link. Simply having one is a performance benefit. IF any vendor or customer can come up with a reason WHY one may be better than the other I would be HIGHLY interested in the reason.
That's as silly as saying a tire is a tire, or a shock is a shock. I'm sure they are all *exactly* the same in strength, durability, let alone geometry and function.

I sell the Fays2. But I also have USED the Fays2 on 3 cars of my own. If I had a car that could use one now, I'd have it on there too. I just don't because Corvette's don't need a Watts link.

All I know is what works, and what's won a LOT of SCCA National Championships. I also know that some companies like to copy what's out there and pretend they came up with something better. Well, like Steve said double bearings (which the Fays2 also uses) vs. some plastic bushings aren't the same kind of thing.

Remember this thing is responsible for keeping the body of the car located over the axle. For instance, a LOT of load goes through one bolt. I want that bolt to be BIG. In the not to distant past there have been Mustang, S197 model Watts links that have failed. One brand kept breaking center bolts. Another would shear the pivot. But yeah, they're all the same.
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Old Dec 19, 2019 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by RAMPANT
Sorry I do not have the individual parts weights, as the Fays was for my Moser 12, and the MWC is for my MWC Fab 9. So the brackets are integral on the Fab 9. A huge weight savings there alone.

Adjustment range is similar, but the Fayes have half hole adjustment, where the MWC is full holes.

The Fayed would be significantly stronger, does it need to be, not sure.

Rod ends are Fayes 3/4" vs MWC 5/8" with corresponding sized hex bar. Bigger ID propeller bearing. A lot more steel in the Fayes. I would guess it weighs 40-50% more.

We will find out, hopefully not the hard way when the MWC unit and diff get tried on 160mph 1G sweepers. I hope they know their engineering **** or this could be be those famous last words.
I know this is bringing up an old thread, but how did the MWC Watts Link compare to the Fays2 for track abuse? I have a Fays2 myself, and the only reason I'm considering changing it out is for true dual exhaust clearance, as I plan to swap my mild steel duals dumped at the axle for stainless true duals out the back. I looked at the UMI Watts, but its $100 more than my current Fays2, and I am looking for as close of an even swap price-wise type of deal on this since I would lose $ selling my Fays2. Do the adjustments on the MWC go as low as the Fays2 and UMI?

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Old Dec 19, 2019 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by kgkern01
I know this is bringing up an old thread, but how did the MWC Watts Link compare to the Fays2 for track abuse? I have a Fays2 myself, and the only reason I'm considering changing it out is for true dual exhaust clearance, as I plan to swap my mild steel duals dumped at the axle for stainless true duals out the back. I looked at the UMI Watts, but its $100 more than my current Fays2, and I am looking for as close of an even swap price-wise type of deal on this since I would lose $ selling my Fays2. Do the adjustments on the MWC go as low as the Fays2 and UMI?
I went with the MWC for the same reason, I'm running the TSP True Dual system that go over the axle. I have plenty of clearance with the MWC Watts Link.

Car is mainly used for autocross/weekend warrior.
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Old Dec 20, 2019 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by kgkern01
I know this is bringing up an old thread, but how did the MWC Watts Link compare to the Fays2 for track abuse? I have a Fays2 myself, and the only reason I'm considering changing it out is for true dual exhaust clearance, as I plan to swap my mild steel duals dumped at the axle for stainless true duals out the back. I looked at the UMI Watts, but its $100 more than my current Fays2, and I am looking for as close of an even swap price-wise type of deal on this since I would lose $ selling my Fays2. Do the adjustments on the MWC go as low as the Fays2 and UMI?
The many many years and amount we have sold we have never had a complaint with function or lasting through abuse in auto-X, road course, our daily drivers. I know Rampant has had his I think since 09?
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