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Old May 12, 2016 | 04:24 PM
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With my car now having 157k miles and never having had any of the ball joints or tie rods replaced, what are some solutions for reducing/eliminating the amount of steering slop that i'm currently experiencing?
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Old May 12, 2016 | 04:27 PM
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Replace rack and pinion and tie rods
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
Replace rack and pinion and tie rods
Report back when/if you do this. Mine is coming up and I'd like to know the report.
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Old May 13, 2016 | 09:18 AM
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yep replace your steering rack and tie rods.
i just replaced mine after 120k and its like fine german engineering now. super precise. and also tighter/more resistance feel. in a good way.

tiny inputs at center actually do something now, instead of just slop.
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Originally Posted by STANG KILLA SS 2
yep replace your steering rack and tie rods.
i just replaced mine after 120k and its like fine german engineering now. super precise. and also tighter/more resistance feel. in a good way.

tiny inputs at center actually do something now, instead of just slop.
Good to hear! I've got a little slop in the center as well. I'm throwing shocks on in a few days and might knock out tie rods as well. What parts did you go with?
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My steering is still tight but I was thinking of doing the bjs, bushings, tie rod ends and maybe a rebuilt rack b/c the above parts have 108k and I am a hypochondriac lol.
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Old May 13, 2016 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Carguy8888
My steering is still tight but I was thinking of doing the bjs, bushings, tie rod ends and maybe a rebuilt rack b/c the above parts have 108k and I am a hypochondriac lol.

Now think how I feel with 188k on the clock and I assume nothing has been touched (only had the car a few days).
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I'd like to add checking your bolt where the intermediate shaft and column join. Mine was a little loose causing play and it's back to feeling solid!
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Originally Posted by kswLS1
Now think how I feel with 188k on the clock and I assume nothing has been touched (only had the car a few days).
Holy smokes.
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Originally Posted by BrittleSpeed
I'd like to add checking your bolt where the intermediate shaft and column join. Mine was a little loose causing play and it's back to feeling solid!
Could you post a pic for us non tech people?
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Originally Posted by Carguy8888
Could you post a pic for us non tech people?

Found images on google (that link to LS1tech). Ignore the arrow.
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The non tech guy thanks you.
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
Replace rack and pinion and tie rods
Yes. Order it complete with the ends from the Rack Doctor. Best value and he does them right; we used him for my wife's van. That being said, mine is still nice and tight at 144k.
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Old May 16, 2016 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by STANG KILLA SS 2
yep replace your steering rack and tie rods.
i just replaced mine after 120k and its like fine german engineering now. super precise. and also tighter/more resistance feel. in a good way.

tiny inputs at center actually do something now, instead of just slop.
Do you mind sharing which steering rack you went with? I see some with 2.25 turns lock to lock and others with 3 turns. I assume the 2.25 turns is preferred for better responsiveness.
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Old May 16, 2016 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BrittleSpeed
I'd like to add checking your bolt where the intermediate shaft and column join. Mine was a little loose causing play and it's back to feeling solid!
I had slop in my steering wheel and ended up tightening the last bolt before the shaft goes into the rack (I think it's a 10mm or 11mm... I forget now) and that completely took all the slack out of the steering.

I have 135k miles on the original rack but have replaced the outer tie rods and ball joints many thousands of miles ago, well before the steering slack started.
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Old May 18, 2016 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JT2000WS6
I had slop in my steering wheel and ended up tightening the last bolt before the shaft goes into the rack (I think it's a 10mm or 11mm... I forget now) and that completely took all the slack out of the steering.

I have 135k miles on the original rack but have replaced the outer tie rods and ball joints many thousands of miles ago, well before the steering slack started.
Same here. Couldn't find any play in the tie-rod ends or anywhere else so I figured the rack had just developed a dead spot after 250k miles. Then I got the bright idea to check the steering shaft where it bolts to the rack to make sure nothing crazy was going on there. I figured the input shaft on the rack and the steering shaft were joined together with a bunch of splines and finding any noticeable play between the two would be highly unlikely. Man I was all kinds of wrong. That's where all of my steering wheel play was coming from and it didn't look safe at all. And I couldn't be happier with the feel of my steering wheel now. Feels like a totally different car.
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Old May 19, 2016 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JT2000WS6
I had slop in my steering wheel and ended up tightening the last bolt before the shaft goes into the rack (I think it's a 10mm or 11mm... I forget now) and that completely took all the slack out of the steering.

I have 135k miles on the original rack but have replaced the outer tie rods and ball joints many thousands of miles ago, well before the steering slack started.
I would really like to try this, can you find a pic on the bolt? I'm another non tech guy , lol
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Old May 19, 2016 | 12:10 PM
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There's no aftermarket rack and pinion out there that will improve performance right? We should just go to Pepboys and pick up oem rack pinion and rods?
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Old May 20, 2016 | 04:35 PM
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^^^I WISH that there were a quicker ratio, bolt-in rack for our cars, but no, sadly there is NOT.

I was going to contact Flaming River at one point, since they do custom, one-off fabrications for many, but I gave up on that idea, thinking do I REALLY need a $5K+ steering rack?!

BTW, Woodward, a race steering company REFUSES to do anything bolt-in for our rides.
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