ABS Delete Break Function.
ABS Delete Break Function. My car (2000 camaro) breaks like crap.The ABS light and low track light go on and off when im driving. Sometimes ill hit 100mph on a straight road and try to break and it feels weird. I replaced the ABS module with one from HAWKS and it didn't fix the issue. Maybe the sensors are bad. But for the same price as new sensors i can get a ABS delete kit.
There are plenty of posts about ABS being great and I understand. A few post talk about "being on the track and having a sensor go out and the tires locking up easy". Are the tires locking up because the ABS is malfunctioning? I have driven a few older cars without ABS and never locked the tires up.
My car is a grocery getter. Im almost never at a stop light and I drive very cautiously. Garaged and driven 30 miles a week tops. There are nice flat open roads near me and when there's no one around ill hit 120ish. I cant have tires locking up "easily".
If i use the SJM ABS delete kit will my breaks lock up easily? Anyone give any examples? It would be nice to hear from people with the ABS delete about their experiences. In my opinion the ABS on these cars have too many issues,and would love to be done with it.
There are plenty of posts about ABS being great and I understand. A few post talk about "being on the track and having a sensor go out and the tires locking up easy". Are the tires locking up because the ABS is malfunctioning? I have driven a few older cars without ABS and never locked the tires up.
My car is a grocery getter. Im almost never at a stop light and I drive very cautiously. Garaged and driven 30 miles a week tops. There are nice flat open roads near me and when there's no one around ill hit 120ish. I cant have tires locking up "easily".
If i use the SJM ABS delete kit will my breaks lock up easily? Anyone give any examples? It would be nice to hear from people with the ABS delete about their experiences. In my opinion the ABS on these cars have too many issues,and would love to be done with it.
My car (2000 camaro) breaks like crap.The ABS light and low track light go on and off when im driving. Sometimes ill hit 100mph on a straight road and try to break and it feels weird. I replaced the ABS module with one from HAWKS and it didn't fix the issue. Maybe the sensors are bad. But for the same price as new sensors i can get a ABS delete kit.
There are plenty of posts about ABS being great and I understand. A few post talk about "being on the track and having a sensor go out and the tires locking up easy". Are the tires locking up because the ABS is malfunctioning? I have driven a few older cars without ABS and never locked the tires up.
My car is a grocery getter. Im almost never at a stop light and I drive very cautiously. Garaged and driven 30 miles a week tops. There are nice flat open roads near me and when there's no one around ill hit 120ish. I cant have tires locking up "easily".
If i use the SJM ABS delete kit will my breaks lock up easily? Anyone give any examples? It would be nice to hear from people with the ABS delete about their experiences. In my opinion the ABS on these cars have too many issues,and would love to be done with it.
There are plenty of posts about ABS being great and I understand. A few post talk about "being on the track and having a sensor go out and the tires locking up easy". Are the tires locking up because the ABS is malfunctioning? I have driven a few older cars without ABS and never locked the tires up.
My car is a grocery getter. Im almost never at a stop light and I drive very cautiously. Garaged and driven 30 miles a week tops. There are nice flat open roads near me and when there's no one around ill hit 120ish. I cant have tires locking up "easily".
If i use the SJM ABS delete kit will my breaks lock up easily? Anyone give any examples? It would be nice to hear from people with the ABS delete about their experiences. In my opinion the ABS on these cars have too many issues,and would love to be done with it.
def sounds like u have a bad wheel speeds sensor. Easy solution is find a shop that can pull abs codes. If they can pull them they should be able to do live date on the sensors and see which one is failing at higher speeds
if i were to do it again i wouldnt use the sjm and go on google and find an abs delete block for our cars. Saves all the flaring and u can resort back to abs block if its not for u. I hate that i had to delete abs.
def sounds like u have a bad wheel speeds sensor. Easy solution is find a shop that can pull abs codes. If they can pull them they should be able to do live date on the sensors and see which one is failing at higher speeds
def sounds like u have a bad wheel speeds sensor. Easy solution is find a shop that can pull abs codes. If they can pull them they should be able to do live date on the sensors and see which one is failing at higher speeds
Hows the breaking with the delete? Also what advantage would the "delete block" give over the SMJ kit?
Last edited by BigBenz; Jun 20, 2021 at 01:55 PM.
I wish the information on the SJM kit was a little clearer. It says nothing about flaring. It reads like the kits is ready to install.
Has anyone installed one recently?
Has anyone installed one recently?
SMJ makes no mention of flaring the stock lines with their kit. It says it comes with everything needed. Maybe its a newer kit? I see that older post mention that the SMJ kit comes with a flare tool.
Here is the description
Each kit includes:- Fittings/assemblies necessary for all connections
- Adjustable Wilwood Proportioning Valve with preassembled fittings
- Pre-formed lines
- Proportioning Valve mounting kit
- Complete Instructions including pictorials and schematics.
Then it says this.
-ABS/TCS compatible. Will not interfere with normal ABS/TCS operation when not in use
I took this to mean that you can put it all back.
Here is the description
Each kit includes:- Fittings/assemblies necessary for all connections
- Adjustable Wilwood Proportioning Valve with preassembled fittings
- Pre-formed lines
- Proportioning Valve mounting kit
- Complete Instructions including pictorials and schematics.
Then it says this.
-ABS/TCS compatible. Will not interfere with normal ABS/TCS operation when not in use
I took this to mean that you can put it all back.
Anti-lock braking makes driving for a daily driver (sounds like this is the OP's situation) much better. If there is a problem with the system, fixing it will give the best results.
Deleting a system that makes braking better and safer (one what is a pretty challenging car to control) doesn't match up with making the braking on a grocery getter better.
All you need to do is have the ABS system scanned for codes and you will hopefully get insight to the specific part or malfunction. Swapping parts (without knowing what the codes are) or even deleting the system is a really expensive way to solve what could be a cheap problem/sensor to fix. Not all scanners will pull ABS codes, but I understand some auto parts stores may have the capability to do this for you for free. (You will need to ask specifically as some only scan the ECM.)
Deleting a system that makes braking better and safer (one what is a pretty challenging car to control) doesn't match up with making the braking on a grocery getter better.
All you need to do is have the ABS system scanned for codes and you will hopefully get insight to the specific part or malfunction. Swapping parts (without knowing what the codes are) or even deleting the system is a really expensive way to solve what could be a cheap problem/sensor to fix. Not all scanners will pull ABS codes, but I understand some auto parts stores may have the capability to do this for you for free. (You will need to ask specifically as some only scan the ECM.)
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Anti-lock braking makes driving for a daily driver (sounds like this is the OP's situation) much better. If there is a problem with the system, fixing it will give the best results.
Deleting a system that makes braking better and safer (one what is a pretty challenging car to control) doesn't match up with making the braking on a grocery getter better.
All you need to do is have the ABS system scanned for codes and you will hopefully get insight to the specific part or malfunction. Swapping parts (without knowing what the codes are) or even deleting the system is a really expensive way to solve what could be a cheap problem/sensor to fix. Not all scanners will pull ABS codes, but I understand some auto parts stores may have the capability to do this for you for free. (You will need to ask specifically as some only scan the ECM.)
Deleting a system that makes braking better and safer (one what is a pretty challenging car to control) doesn't match up with making the braking on a grocery getter better.
All you need to do is have the ABS system scanned for codes and you will hopefully get insight to the specific part or malfunction. Swapping parts (without knowing what the codes are) or even deleting the system is a really expensive way to solve what could be a cheap problem/sensor to fix. Not all scanners will pull ABS codes, but I understand some auto parts stores may have the capability to do this for you for free. (You will need to ask specifically as some only scan the ECM.)
Id like some information on breaking without ABS.
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SJM, mine brakes just fine, not a daily driver at all more racecar though. Did mine with engine out so a lot easier. Yes you need to flare the factory lines which are steel and harder to work with. Eastwood "on car" flaring tool works perfect though.
Im all finished up. What a terrible mod. The SJM kit was a terrible idea. Without a very high quality flare tool properly flaring the tubing is impossible. It was a total nightmare. Do not buy the SJM kit! Basically all I used was one line and the valve.
If SJM included Swageloks it would have been a breeze. I would have gladly paid 200+ extra for the swageloks to be included with the kit.
Dear SJM, Please fix your instructions and replace the fittings with swagloks. Also the website is missing a ton of information. Like how very difficult it is to flare tubing.
Ordering Swageloks is a pain in the ***. Swagelok makes it very difficult. But they work PERFECTLY!
Anyways my breaks work 100x better now. glad i got this doneish. I should have listened to the guy that said dont get the SJM kit!