car is lopsided after collision. cant figure out why. please tell me what to look for
04-30-2005, 05:30 PM
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car is lopsided after collision. cant figure out why. please tell me what to look for so my dillhole friend slid the car
and the passenger side rear hit the curb sideways
now looking at the car from the rear
the car leans to the right
i mean
the drivers side rear fender/wheel gap is bigger
passenger side rear fender/wheel gap is smaller
what should i be looking for?
i dont know if this is the right place
but i figured the suspension guys would know
and the passenger side rear hit the curb sideways
now looking at the car from the rear
the car leans to the right
i mean
the drivers side rear fender/wheel gap is bigger
passenger side rear fender/wheel gap is smaller
what should i be looking for?
i dont know if this is the right place
but i figured the suspension guys would know
05-02-2005, 06:22 PM
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having same problem upgraded springs,shocks,adj.lca'sand adj. panhard.I have 5/8" difference from ground to fender lip drvr. side higher,friend has 1/4".wonder if frame tweeked,getting ready to install subframe conn. but want car to sit straight first.Also new to site and will keep posted,good luck
05-02-2005, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by qwikz28
o and dont forget to check for a broken hub assembly and bent tie rods.
but i do not know what is a hub assembly
or tie rods
finding a decent suspension place is difficult around here
and i dont speak spanish, so the pisas always try to rip me off
i wanted to diagnose and fix/replace things myself,
but thats not gonna happen if its the frame..
i did swap out the entire differential already..
im just disappointed that i still need to do more..
lower control arms and frame.. thanks guys
05-02-2005, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Stone0fFire
forgive my ignorance
but i do not know what is a hub assembly
or tie rods
finding a decent suspension place is difficult around here
and i dont speak spanish, so the pisas always try to rip me off
i wanted to diagnose and fix/replace things myself,
but thats not gonna happen if its the frame..
i did swap out the entire differential already..
im just disappointed that i still need to do more..
lower control arms and frame.. thanks guys
but i do not know what is a hub assembly
or tie rods
finding a decent suspension place is difficult around here
and i dont speak spanish, so the pisas always try to rip me off
i wanted to diagnose and fix/replace things myself,
but thats not gonna happen if its the frame..
i did swap out the entire differential already..
im just disappointed that i still need to do more..
lower control arms and frame.. thanks guys
How hard did he hit the curb? And what do you mean he hit it sideways? Like parallel to the curb?
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05-03-2005, 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by psykoTA
How hard did he hit the curb? And what do you mean he hit it sideways? Like parallel to the curb?
so after i hear his "professional military training" speech
i let him drive my car.
he has a 1996 Firebird V6 w/ 5-Speed Manual
i have a 98 TransAm w/ a 4000 stall automatic and a 1-2 shift that will make you wish you wore a mouthpiece.
he was driving in a straight line
giving it throttle here and there,
nothing happening at 1500, 2000, 2500 rpms
because its a 4000 stall
he's used to his responsive manual "stick car"
so he assumes since my car has no power
he decides to floor it around a square left
the *** end slides right, we're moving south but looking east
he counters, the nose goes right, *** left
counters left and the rear slams into the curb
INTO the curb.
i replaced the diff, but im still assed out a wheel
and the car is crooked.
05-03-2005, 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Stone0fFire
the whole story is he's a driver for the marines
so after i hear his "professional military training" speech
i let him drive my car.
he has a 1996 Firebird V6 w/ 5-Speed Manual
i have a 98 TransAm w/ a 4000 stall automatic and a 1-2 shift that will make you wish you wore a mouthpiece.
he was driving in a straight line
giving it throttle here and there,
nothing happening at 1500, 2000, 2500 rpms
because its a 4000 stall
he's used to his responsive manual "stick car"
so he assumes since my car has no power
he decides to floor it around a square left
the *** end slides right, we're moving south but looking east
he counters, the nose goes right, *** left
counters left and the rear slams into the curb
INTO the curb.
i replaced the diff, but im still assed out a wheel
and the car is crooked.
so after i hear his "professional military training" speech
i let him drive my car.
he has a 1996 Firebird V6 w/ 5-Speed Manual
i have a 98 TransAm w/ a 4000 stall automatic and a 1-2 shift that will make you wish you wore a mouthpiece.
he was driving in a straight line
giving it throttle here and there,
nothing happening at 1500, 2000, 2500 rpms
because its a 4000 stall
he's used to his responsive manual "stick car"
so he assumes since my car has no power
he decides to floor it around a square left
the *** end slides right, we're moving south but looking east
he counters, the nose goes right, *** left
counters left and the rear slams into the curb
INTO the curb.
i replaced the diff, but im still assed out a wheel
and the car is crooked.
An alignment machine will tell you the relation of the rear wheels to the front. A frame machine, will see if the frame is tweaked.
EDIT- and your buddy forks over the dough for that
05-03-2005, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by psykoTA
Thats not cool at all, if you dont see any visible bent parts, then the only other thing is to put it on an alignment rack, or better yet, a frame machine.
An alignment machine will tell you the relation of the rear wheels to the front. A frame machine, will see if the frame is tweaked.
EDIT- and your buddy forks over the dough for that
An alignment machine will tell you the relation of the rear wheels to the front. A frame machine, will see if the frame is tweaked.
EDIT- and your buddy forks over the dough for that
05-04-2005, 01:12 AM
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Well I guess that is what happened to me! That same thing happened to me four years ago and just noticed the cars leans(or squats to the right rear). However I have it checked twice and they tell me there is no frame damage. And then I read a post here that some f body's have been known to do that. One guy posted on here that his car did the same thing and his car had not been in an accident. Let me know how it goes! Maybe I'll check my one last time but like I said the other two frame shops tell me it is fine...
05-04-2005, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MarineSS
Pisas? A bit offensive for not knowing spanish, I'll say. But anyway..
they always start talking to me in spanish
and then when i respond in english
they start asking where are my parents from
and saying "you look like you speak spanish"
and one guy even said in spanish to his friend
"he still has cactus stuck on his forehead but he doesnt speak spanish?"
when i take my dad with me to get quotes
he speaks to them in spanish
and they always give him a better deal than me
they told me $1,000 for a trans rebuild
my dad $700 for a trans rebuild
my wife, who is asian, $2,000 for a trans rebuild
all the same car,
now THAT is offensive
Originally Posted by MarineSS
Perhaps you can get some referrals from your insurance company? Or if you don't want to go that route, give AAA a call and ask them for AAA approved repair shops. Its probably best to just file a claim under your buddy's insurance policy.
Originally Posted by MarineSS
"A professional driver for the Marines?" 
Sorry to hear you fell for that.
Sorry to hear you fell for that.
Originally Posted by MarineSS
Being the car is a unibody, have you looked at the rear frame rails? If not, go to the rear of your car and look above (next to) the tail pipes on both sides. The rear passenger side rail is next to the spare tire well. Look at it. Is it bent? How does the rear passenger quarter panel look? Is it warped? Does your passenger door still open and close? Can you post some pics?
the rear passenger quarter panel?
if that is the exterior body part over the wheel, its fine. (i think)
the door works as fine as it ever did
ill try to get some pics up
thanks for the suggestions guys
05-16-2005, 09:17 AM
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you know, as much as i hate police, insurance is mostly for YOUR benefit, not to give you a hard time. This is where you learn driving w/o insurance is just stupid, because, if frame damage had occured they would probably declare the car totaled and boom! new car. very ironic because my ex-friend kind of did this to me too. He promised to pay for what he broke, he ordered the part, cancelled it, then told his dad i stole his credit card or some crap. I am now in the process of suing him for the money he owes me, because true friends respect each others cars and pay for what was their fault, accident or not. anyhow, sorry to hear about the damage lol. sound like you got a nice car though, gl man
05-26-2005, 09:26 PM
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i finally got a couple of prostars in the rear
and moved up one rear wheel to the front
so im not running a spare in the front anymore
he broke the wheel as well
the car is almost level now
pretty much.. level enough..
but the car makes all kinds of noise when i corner..
and the shop who put on the wheels
used two spacers on each side,
one big one with a little one
on each side!
and still..
the brake has etched a line in the wheels..
this isnt easy..
and moved up one rear wheel to the front
so im not running a spare in the front anymore
he broke the wheel as well
the car is almost level now
pretty much.. level enough..
but the car makes all kinds of noise when i corner..
and the shop who put on the wheels
used two spacers on each side,
one big one with a little one
on each side!
and still..
the brake has etched a line in the wheels..
this isnt easy..