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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 12:40 PM
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Was playing around and did 150 run, and now lately at that speed rear end of car just starts swaying and feels like a boat. Used to do 150+ like I was riding on glass. Mods are at www.cardomain.com/id/ozorowsky. What kind of stuff should I look into to fix this?
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 01:13 PM
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What kind of LCA's and PHB are you using? and how are your shocks? when was your last alignment?
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 04:58 PM
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alignment was maybe 10k miles ago. Shocks are good. I'm using Dynamic Motorsports upper, lower PHB, and LCA's. Also have spohn torque arm. Wobbliness wasn't this bad, but recently converted A4 to M6 and now seems to be kind of bad.
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 08:46 PM
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ttt Help me figure this out please
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 08:48 PM
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This may sound kinda dumb, but I read once that with the M6 drivehaft there was some balancing issue at high speeds, not sure what year but it was something about switching to another year one... Just trying to help.
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 08:54 PM
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stop pouring Johnny Walker down the gas tank and THAT should stop the wobble.. or the studder.. or any other drunken syndrom.

j/k bro.. best wishes
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Charging TA
This may sound kinda dumb, but I read once that with the M6 drivehaft there was some balancing issue at high speeds, not sure what year but it was something about switching to another year one... Just trying to help.
Makes PERFECT sense. Get that DS checked!
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by OldeSkool
Makes PERFECT sense. Get that DS checked!


Was it a fast "vibration" wobble or was it more of a back and forth "sway" like it was the car not being stable and the rear tires breaking loose and skating? I doubt the later, so I'd agree that it could in fact be a drive shaft that doesn't like something @ that speed. Though wouldn't you still notice it at a lower speed or a higher RPM?
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 09:27 AM
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The tires were not breaking loose, but did have a skating feeling. Like being on a boat. It was like the car is twisted and back was going one way and front going another. It MAY have been the road. Don't start noticing it until about 120 or 130 mph. Just can't put my finger on it.

This may sound dumb, but I WAS goign over a bridge. Maybe there was high wind coupled with car going 150 mph bad idea. Just MAYBE. But still doesn't hurt to check other stuff out.

Drive shaft was the same one on my auto. Never had any problems.
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Michael Ozorowsky
The tires were not breaking loose, but did have a skating feeling. Like being on a boat. It was like the car is twisted and back was going one way and front going another. It MAY have been the road. Don't start noticing it until about 120 or 130 mph. Just can't put my finger on it.

This may sound dumb, but I WAS goign over a bridge. Maybe there was high wind coupled with car going 150 mph bad idea. Just MAYBE. But still doesn't hurt to check other stuff out.

Drive shaft was the same one on my auto. Never had any problems.


I remember reading the same thing about the DS somewhere. Yes it could have been the bridge, but I've done the same thing in a family sedan Even crusing @ 75 MPH, the car on some bridges feels like it's skating, but that's just do to the fact that I'm trying to aero correct. Dunno though, as the f-bodies are pretty slippery on all profiles to air, I guess if it is hitting you right at those speeds, you would feel it though. safely and still get you're DS checked. It might just not be lined up properly since the swap which could throw it a little bit out of balance and cause this. GL.
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 10:44 AM
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Ya know, maybe it's just me, but doing 150 mph on a public road not designed for those kinds of speeds is a bad idea too. At that speed anything can disturb the aerodynamics of the vehicle... and any imperfections in the road surface will be magnified. IMHO, don't drive like an ***.
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Your shocks mostl likely aren't good. Don't assume they are..... They don't need to be leaking or clunking to severely lack damping control. And when they do, you feel like you are on a boat, the car just feels disconnected and floats around.
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 01:27 PM
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IMO, if I don't wear a seatbelt, whose in danger? ME. If I drive 150+ at 1am, with no one on the bridge, whose in danger? ME. In my opinion I'm not driving like an ***. Don't see you cautioning me when the army wants to send me to Iraq/Afghanistan, so keep comments on topic. Kthxbye
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Ozorowsky
IMO, if I don't wear a seatbelt, whose in danger? ME. If I drive 150+ at 1am, with no one on the bridge, whose in danger? ME. In my opinion I'm not driving like an ***. Don't see you cautioning me when the army wants to send me to Iraq/Afghanistan, so keep comments on topic. Kthxbye
And what if I happen to be on that bridge just over the rise? How much control do you think you have at 150 in your "wobbly" car. I don't care if you wear a seatbelt. I care if you endanger me. And please keep the Army out of it. They have nothing to do with how you comport yourself on public roads.

As for the ride, I agree 100% with Sam. He knows his info and he's a good guy. Your driveshaft has nothing to do with the skating feeling you get in the car.
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by pimpmaro
And what if I happen to be on that bridge just over the rise? How much control do you think you have at 150 in your "wobbly" car. I don't care if you wear a seatbelt. I care if you endanger me. And please keep the Army out of it. They have nothing to do with how you comport yourself on public roads.

As for the ride, I agree 100% with Sam. He knows his info and he's a good guy. Your driveshaft has nothing to do with the skating feeling you get in the car.
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 03:58 AM
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And what if I happen to be on that bridge just over the rise? How much control do you think you have at 150 in your "wobbly" car. I don't care if you wear a seatbelt. I care if you endanger me. And please keep the Army out of it. They have nothing to do with how you comport yourself on public roads.
Thats why I don't do 150 going over a rise
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 09:04 AM
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Why would shocks be "wobbly" at higher speed but not
(say) at 100MPH? I don't get that bit. Though if there
were some tire-out-of-round action the shocks I guess
would help keep the rubber down. To that point, you
might want to check the tires for any imperfection at
all, spin them looking for even radius, sidewall bulges
and so on.

You could always get a "ricer wing" and aerodynamic it
all up
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Michael Ozorowsky
Thats why I don't do 150 going over a rise


I'm sorry if you're having a hard time understanding why driving over twice the posted speed limit on a public highway is a bad idea, especially in an unprepped car. There's a reason muscle car owners have a bad image in the rest of the population, but I can rest assured that people like you are working hard to help fix that.

Did you order new shocks yet?
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by jimmyblue
Why would shocks be "wobbly" at higher speed but not
(say) at 100MPH? I don't get that bit. Though if there
were some tire-out-of-round action the shocks I guess
would help keep the rubber down. To that point, you
might want to check the tires for any imperfection at
all, spin them looking for even radius, sidewall bulges
and so on.

You could always get a "ricer wing" and aerodynamic it
all up
Same reason that a car is heavy at 15 mph and lighter at 70. Part of it is aerodynamics and part of it is inertia over the surface imperfections. I agree, tires could have something to do with it, but if he's not feeling vibrations, I don't think it's the tire. If you hit an imperfection in the road going that fast and the car doesn't have enough dampening, then it starts oscillating. If it doesn't have a chance to calm down before the next imperfection, you have the "ripples in a pond" effect and they just start compounding.
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 01:51 PM
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I had the same problem but it was a bad tire/broken steel belt, sidewall was flexing at high speeds, runs smooth as hell now.
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