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Old 08-05-2005, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by stang killer
Will you continue to say that if a weld were to fail on their parts on your car and god forbid someone got hurt as a result of it? Yes BMR is a big company, so they should have no problem being able to make a weld that will not break.
I believe the weld problem is a fundamental design issue,
not a weld quality issue per se. You have a "T" weld that
is in pretty much constant tension and occasional torsion
and impact. The weld root is a pretty small circle and it
has a lot of force put to it on cornering, bouncing and
especially wheel impacts. You would need a weld stronger
than the parent metal for this design to be "no worries".
That takes some mighty special circumstances, to get.
Not just the weld filler, but the adhesion to the two
parent pieces (esp. the sides which are subjected to a
normal pull-off force, while the crossmember-weld bead
interface is more in shear).

I notice other Ks that appear to have the main cross-
member a continuous tube rather than having the T-
welds bear the full load of keeping the front end together.
But on these I see other features that don't make me
any more confident in those, in the end.

I believe the BMR design could be "saved" by strategic
over-strapping of the weld to keep the original from so
much localized strain. This is what I want the various
peoples' fail-point pics for, to see where the prime points
for reinforcement are (common point of failure?). I want
to strap mine -before- something bad happens.
Old 08-05-2005, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmyblue
I believe the BMR design could be "saved" by strategic
over-strapping of the weld to keep the original from so
much localized strain. This is what I want the various
peoples' fail-point pics for, to see where the prime points
for reinforcement are (common point of failure?). I want
to strap mine -before- something bad happens.
Adding gussets, straping and reinforcing (weight) kind of defeats the purpose of an aftermarket K, doesn't it?

I realize you want to salvage yours, but in hind sight and knowing what we all know now, it was kind of a wasted effort, wasn't it?
Old 08-05-2005, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mitchntx
Adding gussets, straping and reinforcing (weight) kind of defeats the purpose of an aftermarket K, doesn't it?

I realize you want to salvage yours, but in hind sight and knowing what we all know now, it was kind of a wasted effort, wasn't it?
To my eye it looks like 2-3lb of flat stock to make it
a whole bunch stronger, vs the (35 lb?) weight saved
off the stock K-member & mounts.

If I had it to do over I would probably go and more
carefully inspect vendors' photos for designs that look
more rugged, and I would do the reinforcement that
looks sensible before putting it on the car, whichever
one I bought. But I would put a lighter K-member on
the car, again.

However I would have preferred to buy one even 5lb
heavier, if I thought the 5lb was applied to the right
areas and made it a truly street-abuse-capable
member. That was what I took the BMR to be per
their marketing material; at the time they said so
and no other mfr was so bold to claim theirs were up
to street beating. Which I'm pretty sure that judicious
rework can still achieve, building on these lightweight
base pieces. Just would've been a whole lot nicer,
good-to-go rather than rework on-car (or worse yet,
off and on again at shop rates).
Old 08-05-2005, 08:22 PM
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I helped install a BMR k-member with a friend of mine yesterday, the design has been totally changed,he took pictures for his web site I will try to get them up today or tommorow,checked their website and they still have pictures of the old design
Old 08-05-2005, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by sikws6
...the design has been totally changed...
While appreciated, its still unfortunate that there have to be these redesigns on safety-critical parts. One would hope that (at least when dropping almost $500) that some relevant R&D went into the first design. I would imagine that GM did so when designing the original K-member...
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Originally Posted by Fulton 1
While appreciated, its still unfortunate that there have to be these redesigns on safety-critical parts. One would hope that (at least when dropping almost $500) that some relevant R&D went into the first design. I would imagine that GM did so when designing the original K-member...
That being said YOU MUST know how much R&D was done if not it's clearly just stating your speculation not facts, R&D doesn't gaurantee a perfect part that's why every year GM improves on last years models and yes even GM has recalls

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Old 08-06-2005, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Fulton 1
Another thing to be wary of is comments like, "I have Brand X part and no problems!" What exactly does that really mean? Just because I bolt in a part and I have "no problems" doesn't mean its performing its intended task or making any improvements. For example, the stock parts perform with "no problems" 97% of the time, so why replace them at all if that's the only criterion?

FWIW, I still have some BMR parts that I like (LCA relo. brackets and STB), but there are others that I would not even consider installing on my vehicle.
Good point. I'll be more specific and say I haven't broken any of my BMR stuff yet. But so far (with my new car at least) I fall into category 1 of Mitch's post (ran out of money for tires ). I do have this clunking noise coming from the rod ends on my PHB that seems to be getting louder, but so far that's it.




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