What do I have to do to compete with a WRX?
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What do I have to do to compete with a WRX?
I keep getting **** about how the Fbods can't handle around corners, what can I do to change this? What do I need to change to make the Fbod a street handling beast? I know most guys have good luck with SFCs and LCAs, but the root of the problem seems to be struts. I highly doubt I'll be lowering my car anytime in the near future, unless 17-inch rims look like crap on a stock height car...
What things do I need to focus on for some awesome street handling?
What things do I need to focus on for some awesome street handling?
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Sticky tires,big sway bars,better shocks,SFCs and LCAs with poly bushings.That would be a good start.If I lowered my car down from stock height I would be handling even better..
01 ws6,silver,auto with a yank pt4000 stall,B&M trans cooler,DTS 12 bolt ,3:73,DTS support cover,complete BMR chrome moly suspension including panhard bar,adjustable torque arm,tubular control arms,driveshaft loop,strut bar,optima red top battery,k&n,slp lid,bg ram air mod,Mac headers,off road y pipe,magnflow catback,MSD wires,NGK plugs,smooth bellows,slp mass air flow,throttle body coolant by pass,160 stat,
2.02 1.575 manly racemaster valves with fully polished and ported heads Trend Fully hardend pushrods, COMP TI retainers, Dual Valve spring's
custom comp 228 236 588 578 114 ,ARP hardware,New Z06 gaskets.Around 400 RWHP and 360 torque on a
01 ws6,silver,auto with a yank pt4000 stall,B&M trans cooler,DTS 12 bolt ,3:73,DTS support cover,complete BMR chrome moly suspension including panhard bar,adjustable torque arm,tubular control arms,driveshaft loop,strut bar,optima red top battery,k&n,slp lid,bg ram air mod,Mac headers,off road y pipe,magnflow catback,MSD wires,NGK plugs,smooth bellows,slp mass air flow,throttle body coolant by pass,160 stat,
2.02 1.575 manly racemaster valves with fully polished and ported heads Trend Fully hardend pushrods, COMP TI retainers, Dual Valve spring's
custom comp 228 236 588 578 114 ,ARP hardware,New Z06 gaskets.Around 400 RWHP and 360 torque on a
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Originally Posted by Marksman
I keep getting **** about how the Fbods can't handle around corners, what can I do to change this? What do I need to change to make the Fbod a street handling beast? I know most guys have good luck with SFCs and LCAs, but the root of the problem seems to be struts. I highly doubt I'll be lowering my car anytime in the near future, unless 17-inch rims look like crap on a stock height car...
What things do I need to focus on for some awesome street handling?
What things do I need to focus on for some awesome street handling?
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Depending on model you may have smaller or larger
sway bars, I like the matched hollow set I got from
Strano. The factory shocks, unless you got a 1LE
optioned car, are too soft and go downhill from
there. These I think are the biggest improvements
up front; static and dynamic body roll control.
Lowering will help some, but cost you in other ways
(launch, ground clearance). If I knew now, etc., I
think I'd have left the stock springs alone.
Don't forget tires, that's the bottom line for grip.
Suspension just makes sure you use all (or more
at least) of the rubber you've got.
Then you just have to be on top of the situation,
not depend on factory AWD to pull you straight
despite mad-drifter-yo clownery. From what I
gather the F-body can handle better than most
people can drive.
sway bars, I like the matched hollow set I got from
Strano. The factory shocks, unless you got a 1LE
optioned car, are too soft and go downhill from
there. These I think are the biggest improvements
up front; static and dynamic body roll control.
Lowering will help some, but cost you in other ways
(launch, ground clearance). If I knew now, etc., I
think I'd have left the stock springs alone.
Don't forget tires, that's the bottom line for grip.
Suspension just makes sure you use all (or more
at least) of the rubber you've got.
Then you just have to be on top of the situation,
not depend on factory AWD to pull you straight
despite mad-drifter-yo clownery. From what I
gather the F-body can handle better than most
people can drive.
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as above, but dont use poly bushings in the LCA's as they will bind and screw up handleing.
Shocks
swaybars
tires
thats a good place to start
Also SFC's dont really change the handleing of the car, they just keep it from going downhill with age. And before the flames come, yes I have them, and yes I have tested it both with and without, look at how well an ESP prepped fbody can handle and they cant have SFC's.
As to the WRX they are not all that tough to beat, the STI is a bit tougher. I own a WRX and they feel much faster, but on a track where the timers tell no lies, they arent. Now A modded STI, like Joel Furmans STI is a tough car to beat.
Shocks
swaybars
tires
thats a good place to start
Also SFC's dont really change the handleing of the car, they just keep it from going downhill with age. And before the flames come, yes I have them, and yes I have tested it both with and without, look at how well an ESP prepped fbody can handle and they cant have SFC's.
As to the WRX they are not all that tough to beat, the STI is a bit tougher. I own a WRX and they feel much faster, but on a track where the timers tell no lies, they arent. Now A modded STI, like Joel Furmans STI is a tough car to beat.
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From just starting to really spend time in my F-body *non 1le* I've been happier then I was expecting with handling
Sways and shocks with some other mods would really help slower hard turns I feel and I'll get them someday soon but I've come to find on a situation like a Road Course they do quite well.
Tell him this isn't 1972 they handle fine
Sways and shocks with some other mods would really help slower hard turns I feel and I'll get them someday soon but I've come to find on a situation like a Road Course they do quite well.
Tell him this isn't 1972 they handle fine
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I've done alot to my suspension....sway bars (rear anyways stock 35mm front is great from SLP) BMR.... LCAs, Torque Arm, rear sway, panhard rod. bilsteins with slp/eibach springs, SFC. like others have said my car handles better than i can drive! but when it comes to the twisties, i can beat a WRX to the corner, and turn in better than him, then leave the turn with him far behind me still! i heard WRX's were "fast" until i beat one with my parents stock WS6. Now with my 98 ss heads/cam/bolt ons/400rwhp...they are nothing but a waste of my time! i just laugh
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I hate to mag race, but stock to stock, Fbody pulls better slalom #s and G force.
Anyone who's bragging about the WRX compared to fbody is an ignorant idiot.
WRX is more "tossable" and probably more fun in corners. Fbody can go faster through the corners. FACT.
STi is a different story.
Anyone who's bragging about the WRX compared to fbody is an ignorant idiot.
WRX is more "tossable" and probably more fun in corners. Fbody can go faster through the corners. FACT.
STi is a different story.
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Hey, Marksman, do you post on the tintmasters forum? A shock replacement is a good idea. The adjustable Koni's would be nice, but the revalved Bilsteins are a decent lower priced alternative.
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Originally Posted by silverTA2002
I hate to mag race, but stock to stock, Fbody pulls better slalom #s and G force.
Anyone who's bragging about the WRX compared to fbody is an ignorant idiot.
WRX is more "tossable" and probably more fun in corners. Fbody can go faster through the corners. FACT.
STi is a different story.
Anyone who's bragging about the WRX compared to fbody is an ignorant idiot.
WRX is more "tossable" and probably more fun in corners. Fbody can go faster through the corners. FACT.
STi is a different story.
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Originally Posted by silverTA2002
I hate to mag race, but stock to stock, Fbody pulls better slalom #s and G force.
Anyone who's bragging about the WRX compared to fbody is an ignorant idiot.
WRX is more "tossable" and probably more fun in corners. Fbody can go faster through the corners. FACT.
STi is a different story.
Anyone who's bragging about the WRX compared to fbody is an ignorant idiot.
WRX is more "tossable" and probably more fun in corners. Fbody can go faster through the corners. FACT.
STi is a different story.
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This is all true, when I actually sat down to think about it, I dont' handle all that bad. I'd love to get ride of some of that body roll, but it's not horrible either.
studentdriver, yes that's me on the tintmaster's forums. I take it you're the one I've been hearing about with the STS from Fargo in the red T/A? Shoot me a PM...
studentdriver, yes that's me on the tintmaster's forums. I take it you're the one I've been hearing about with the STS from Fargo in the red T/A? Shoot me a PM...