Differences in suspension set-up
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Differences in suspension set-up 1. What is the advantge of having the shocks+springs mounted horizontally over the vertical/15 degree inclined regular/common street car set-up?
2. Why do supercars/F1 cars use them?
3. How does it work?
Thanks in advance,
Valera
2. Why do supercars/F1 cars use them?
3. How does it work?
Thanks in advance,
Valera
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PS: the only thing i could come with is that as the angle between A-arm and the shock increases the more force is applied to the shock -> higher pressure needed inside the shock in order to keep the shock from compressing, but I'm not really sure due to absence of knowledge of the geometry of horizontal set-up...
Correct me if I'm wrong at any point. I want to learn.
Valera.
Correct me if I'm wrong at any point. I want to learn.
Valera.
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I think there are multiple reasons.
One that comes to mind is clearance/height/packaging.
The car can have a lower profile and push the wheels further outboard with the shocks/springs horizantal as opposed to vertical.
Maybe Sam Strano will see this thread and comment.
One that comes to mind is clearance/height/packaging.
The car can have a lower profile and push the wheels further outboard with the shocks/springs horizantal as opposed to vertical.
Maybe Sam Strano will see this thread and comment.
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More info on the subject This is what I got for a reply on Honda-Tech.com for the same topic so far.
Quote:
" If I understand your question correctly, it comes down to something as simple as making room for everything required under that fender well.
Basically it's a compromise between function and that nagging need to fit a tire/rim to the whole sh-bang.
Basically you start with the need to mount the lower strut mount as far out away from the control arms' inner pivot axis (for damping efficiency).
Then you realize that in order for the tire/rim assembly to be properly oriented with the hub bearing / ball joint inclination and other considerations, part of the tire/rim assembly carries over the lower strut mounting location.
In order to accommodate both these, they tilt the strut inward at the top. Thus the screwy way it seems.
P_Adams "
Valera
Quote:
" If I understand your question correctly, it comes down to something as simple as making room for everything required under that fender well.
Basically it's a compromise between function and that nagging need to fit a tire/rim to the whole sh-bang.
Basically you start with the need to mount the lower strut mount as far out away from the control arms' inner pivot axis (for damping efficiency).
Then you realize that in order for the tire/rim assembly to be properly oriented with the hub bearing / ball joint inclination and other considerations, part of the tire/rim assembly carries over the lower strut mounting location.
In order to accommodate both these, they tilt the strut inward at the top. Thus the screwy way it seems.
P_Adams "
Valera
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Sam Strano is the local suspension expert.
His screen name is "Sam Strano".
He owns Strano Parts (www.stranoparts.com), a sponsor.
His screen name is "Sam Strano".
He owns Strano Parts (www.stranoparts.com), a sponsor.
