Strano Performance Lowering Springs
05-16-2006, 01:44 PM
#41
12 Second Club
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Bucks County, Pa.
Posts: 4,273
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Sam; would the rear setup be compatable with; Koni DA/GC with 600# springs front and Koni SAs on the back?? I'm asking this in case I want to get rid of the GC "weight jackers" on the back. 
Also, any chance you'll make a lowering, totally linear rate rear setup, ever??
Also, any chance you'll make a lowering, totally linear rate rear setup, ever?? 
05-16-2006, 02:05 PM
#43
The springs are lowering springs, and the working range will be *totally* linear. You can't have a totally linear rear springs back there that's a higher rate lowering spring without it coming free in droop like GC stuff does. That's why we are having a built in tender springs (very low rate so it will just go away with the weight of the car applied) put in.
I see it this way. Who the hell cares if it's a dual rate spring or a 100% true linear spring if the first rate is completely out of play all the time? That's not the issue with progressive springs. The issue is the rate changing actively as you drive down the road. Mine aren't going to do that.
I see it this way. Who the hell cares if it's a dual rate spring or a 100% true linear spring if the first rate is completely out of play all the time? That's not the issue with progressive springs. The issue is the rate changing actively as you drive down the road. Mine aren't going to do that.
__________________
www.stranoparts.com --814-849-3450
Results matter. Talk is cheap. We are miles beyond the success anyone else has had with the 4th gens, and C5, C6, C7 Corvettes,
10 SCCA Solo National Championships, 2008 Driver of they Year, 2012 Driver of Eminence
13 SCCA Pro Solo Nationals Championships
2023 UMI King of the Mountain Champion
www.stranoparts.com --814-849-3450
Results matter. Talk is cheap. We are miles beyond the success anyone else has had with the 4th gens, and C5, C6, C7 Corvettes,
10 SCCA Solo National Championships, 2008 Driver of they Year, 2012 Driver of Eminence
13 SCCA Pro Solo Nationals Championships
2023 UMI King of the Mountain Champion
05-16-2006, 02:21 PM
#44
Originally Posted by Runn
What would be the best shocks to use with your springs?
__________________
www.stranoparts.com --814-849-3450
Results matter. Talk is cheap. We are miles beyond the success anyone else has had with the 4th gens, and C5, C6, C7 Corvettes,
10 SCCA Solo National Championships, 2008 Driver of they Year, 2012 Driver of Eminence
13 SCCA Pro Solo Nationals Championships
2023 UMI King of the Mountain Champion
www.stranoparts.com --814-849-3450
Results matter. Talk is cheap. We are miles beyond the success anyone else has had with the 4th gens, and C5, C6, C7 Corvettes,
10 SCCA Solo National Championships, 2008 Driver of they Year, 2012 Driver of Eminence
13 SCCA Pro Solo Nationals Championships
2023 UMI King of the Mountain Champion
05-16-2006, 03:47 PM
#46
I'll sell both. I generally don't do "packages" because no two situations are necessarily the same or even similar enough for that. Also, I sell my stuff for a fair price all the time, because of that I don't have tons of mark-up that I can suddenly cut down.
__________________
www.stranoparts.com --814-849-3450
Results matter. Talk is cheap. We are miles beyond the success anyone else has had with the 4th gens, and C5, C6, C7 Corvettes,
10 SCCA Solo National Championships, 2008 Driver of they Year, 2012 Driver of Eminence
13 SCCA Pro Solo Nationals Championships
2023 UMI King of the Mountain Champion
www.stranoparts.com --814-849-3450
Results matter. Talk is cheap. We are miles beyond the success anyone else has had with the 4th gens, and C5, C6, C7 Corvettes,
10 SCCA Solo National Championships, 2008 Driver of they Year, 2012 Driver of Eminence
13 SCCA Pro Solo Nationals Championships
2023 UMI King of the Mountain Champion
05-16-2006, 03:58 PM
#48
Did you leave a message? I'm pretty much on the phone all day, everyday. If you get me, great but generally I have to return the call.
__________________
www.stranoparts.com --814-849-3450
Results matter. Talk is cheap. We are miles beyond the success anyone else has had with the 4th gens, and C5, C6, C7 Corvettes,
10 SCCA Solo National Championships, 2008 Driver of they Year, 2012 Driver of Eminence
13 SCCA Pro Solo Nationals Championships
2023 UMI King of the Mountain Champion
www.stranoparts.com --814-849-3450
Results matter. Talk is cheap. We are miles beyond the success anyone else has had with the 4th gens, and C5, C6, C7 Corvettes,
10 SCCA Solo National Championships, 2008 Driver of they Year, 2012 Driver of Eminence
13 SCCA Pro Solo Nationals Championships
2023 UMI King of the Mountain Champion
05-16-2006, 04:00 PM
#49
TECH Regular
iTrader: (3)
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Back in the OKC now...
Posts: 453
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Sam Strano
Now you're making me feel bad....
Workable shock options start @ $530/set (Revalves) and go up from there (through 3 levels of Koni's) plus the shipping which varies depending on what you get.
I only have a couple of sets of "test" springs left. $220 shipped. Production spring will be $269 shipped.
Workable shock options start @ $530/set (Revalves) and go up from there (through 3 levels of Koni's) plus the shipping which varies depending on what you get.
I only have a couple of sets of "test" springs left. $220 shipped. Production spring will be $269 shipped.
<---Russell, I should be #1 on your list, I pm'd you my info the other day... Do I need to send it to you again?
05-16-2006, 04:04 PM
#50
Who's Russell?
Koncrete, you are in Iraq currently and coming home soon are you not? You are on my list. But if you could PM your details again I'd appreciate it. I have your screen name, so I knew I could find you when the time came. But it seems I missed you PM in amongst the many others I get day in and out. My apologies.
Koncrete, you are in Iraq currently and coming home soon are you not? You are on my list. But if you could PM your details again I'd appreciate it. I have your screen name, so I knew I could find you when the time came.
But it seems I missed you PM in amongst the many others I get day in and out. My apologies.
__________________
www.stranoparts.com --814-849-3450
Results matter. Talk is cheap. We are miles beyond the success anyone else has had with the 4th gens, and C5, C6, C7 Corvettes,
10 SCCA Solo National Championships, 2008 Driver of they Year, 2012 Driver of Eminence
13 SCCA Pro Solo Nationals Championships
2023 UMI King of the Mountain Champion
www.stranoparts.com --814-849-3450
Results matter. Talk is cheap. We are miles beyond the success anyone else has had with the 4th gens, and C5, C6, C7 Corvettes,
10 SCCA Solo National Championships, 2008 Driver of they Year, 2012 Driver of Eminence
13 SCCA Pro Solo Nationals Championships
2023 UMI King of the Mountain Champion
05-16-2006, 04:43 PM
#51
Launching!
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: CA
Posts: 200
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by May Spin
Wow... Good job Sam. I like the idea of a linear rate, especially for the front. Is there any progression between the two rates in the rear? Or does it function like a true dual stack (minus the fact we don't have a coil over), and the tender (in this case) only being required for length purposes (thus being a helper spring)?
Oh..... If I guess the rates do I get a set for free?
Scott.
Oh..... If I guess the rates do I get a set for free?
Scott.
Originally Posted by Sam Strano
I see it this way. Who the hell cares if it's a dual rate spring or a 100% true linear spring if the first rate is completely out of play all the time? That's not the issue with progressive springs. The issue is the rate changing actively as you drive down the road. Mine aren't going to do that.
05-16-2006, 04:44 PM
#52
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Posts: 1,365
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Sam Strano
Did you leave a message? I'm pretty much on the phone all day, everyday. If you get me, great but generally I have to return the call.
05-16-2006, 06:20 PM
#53
TECH Regular
iTrader: (3)
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Back in the OKC now...
Posts: 453
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Sam Strano
Who's Russell?
Koncrete, you are in Iraq currently and coming home soon are you not? You are on my list. But if you could PM your details again I'd appreciate it. I have your screen name, so I knew I could find you when the time came. But it seems I missed you PM in amongst the many others I get day in and out. My apologies.
Koncrete, you are in Iraq currently and coming home soon are you not? You are on my list. But if you could PM your details again I'd appreciate it. I have your screen name, so I knew I could find you when the time came.
But it seems I missed you PM in amongst the many others I get day in and out. My apologies.no worries, I do not envy the number of calls/pm's/e-mails you must get on a daily basis!!! sending again
05-17-2006, 12:51 AM
#54
On the list today... FWIW guys I really think that these will be the way to go. The linear rate will work well with the Koni's so the whole package should work quite nicely. Remember the shocks don't know that the springs are progressive, but most times the shocks are linear, so it make the system work in better harmony so to say.
Bret
Bret
05-17-2006, 12:31 PM
#56
Originally Posted by My2ndls1
Sam, I called yesterday and left you a message. If you get a chance, call me or PM me and I will call you back. Thanks!
Byron
Byron
__________________
www.stranoparts.com --814-849-3450
Results matter. Talk is cheap. We are miles beyond the success anyone else has had with the 4th gens, and C5, C6, C7 Corvettes,
10 SCCA Solo National Championships, 2008 Driver of they Year, 2012 Driver of Eminence
13 SCCA Pro Solo Nationals Championships
2023 UMI King of the Mountain Champion
www.stranoparts.com --814-849-3450
Results matter. Talk is cheap. We are miles beyond the success anyone else has had with the 4th gens, and C5, C6, C7 Corvettes,
10 SCCA Solo National Championships, 2008 Driver of they Year, 2012 Driver of Eminence
13 SCCA Pro Solo Nationals Championships
2023 UMI King of the Mountain Champion
05-17-2006, 12:34 PM
#57
Originally Posted by May Spin
I get it now (see below)...
I'm picturing a very, very soft spring welded to the working spring (thus no progression between the two). Who's purpose is only increase the length for fitment. I don't think this has been done before on an F-body, unique and will work great and act like a true linear spring.
I'm picturing a very, very soft spring welded to the working spring (thus no progression between the two). Who's purpose is only increase the length for fitment. I don't think this has been done before on an F-body, unique and will work great and act like a true linear spring.
Not many springs are that way, but some are,and if the rates were more to my liking, I'd use those instead of making my own. But, they aren't, so I am.
__________________
www.stranoparts.com --814-849-3450
Results matter. Talk is cheap. We are miles beyond the success anyone else has had with the 4th gens, and C5, C6, C7 Corvettes,
10 SCCA Solo National Championships, 2008 Driver of they Year, 2012 Driver of Eminence
13 SCCA Pro Solo Nationals Championships
2023 UMI King of the Mountain Champion
www.stranoparts.com --814-849-3450
Results matter. Talk is cheap. We are miles beyond the success anyone else has had with the 4th gens, and C5, C6, C7 Corvettes,
10 SCCA Solo National Championships, 2008 Driver of they Year, 2012 Driver of Eminence
13 SCCA Pro Solo Nationals Championships
2023 UMI King of the Mountain Champion
05-17-2006, 03:55 PM
#58
TECH Addict
iTrader: (3)
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Lincoln, NE
Posts: 2,869
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Sam Strano
The issue is the rate changing actively as you drive down the road. Mine aren't going to do that.
05-17-2006, 04:02 PM
#59
Your stock springs are linear, FWIW.
Comfort is actually more damper related than spring related, assuming not insane spring rates in general. The issue with progressive springs is quite simple. You don't know at any given compressed length what spring rate you are dealing with, as it's changeable. Considering shocks are spring dampers, one can see how those springs can make proper damping at all times pretty much an impossibility.
Improper damping is what's wrong with the car stock, NOT the spring rates.
It's great marketing to be sure to say they ride soft when you want, and handle like a race car when you want.
Comfort is actually more damper related than spring related, assuming not insane spring rates in general. The issue with progressive springs is quite simple. You don't know at any given compressed length what spring rate you are dealing with, as it's changeable. Considering shocks are spring dampers, one can see how those springs can make proper damping at all times pretty much an impossibility.
Improper damping is what's wrong with the car stock, NOT the spring rates.
It's great marketing to be sure to say they ride soft when you want, and handle like a race car when you want.
__________________
www.stranoparts.com --814-849-3450
Results matter. Talk is cheap. We are miles beyond the success anyone else has had with the 4th gens, and C5, C6, C7 Corvettes,
10 SCCA Solo National Championships, 2008 Driver of they Year, 2012 Driver of Eminence
13 SCCA Pro Solo Nationals Championships
2023 UMI King of the Mountain Champion
www.stranoparts.com --814-849-3450
Results matter. Talk is cheap. We are miles beyond the success anyone else has had with the 4th gens, and C5, C6, C7 Corvettes,
10 SCCA Solo National Championships, 2008 Driver of they Year, 2012 Driver of Eminence
13 SCCA Pro Solo Nationals Championships
2023 UMI King of the Mountain Champion
05-17-2006, 04:13 PM
#60
TECH Addict
iTrader: (3)
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Lincoln, NE
Posts: 2,869
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Great response. In the future when I get to the suspension I will definitely look these up. Already decided on your hollow 35/22 bars and Koni SA's, these would just complete the package.