Robert P

The heim joint ends on my lg motorsports lca's aren't going into the mounts at the axle... I tried one of the new lca's on the drivers' side (with the heim joints at the axle side) and it was about 1/8" too wide. I tried the other one (with different alum. bushings) - same story.

I would think that with the "superior" quality of the lg motorsports parts I wouldn't have to file down the bushings or beat on the lca mount on my car.

Does anybody have any brilliant thoughts on what to do?

Also, I ordered sfc's w/ the V braces from lgm. It appears that one of the drivers' side v brace bolt holes is 3/8" off center from where it needs to be. On the sfc, the holes are 27 3/4" apart and on the brace they are 27 3/8" apart. The bolts won't even go into both holes.

I of course called lgm, but they're closed today so since I was installing this I thought I'd post...

Rob

Louis

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Did you have another aftermarket brand on there before? On 99% of the cars, they fit fine, sometimes there is the exception.
We wanted a tight fit, not a sloppy one, and putting a smaller bushing in there would force you to pinch the brackets which is Not the best thing to do. Do a search for Fulton1, he had the same problem.

Robert P

Thanks G2 LS1,
I was taking off BMR lca's. After I was just able to get the G2 ones in, I slid the bmr back in and it was sooo loose. I did finally get the lca's in though. what bastards they were. I had to hammer the crap out of my stock lca mounts. I also shaved just *barely* any material off of each of the aluminum spacers for the lca's.

Still no idea about the sfc v brace fitment issue though...

Louis

iTrader: (7)

ooh, I didnt address the SFC question. I will try to talk to them on monday. They maybe able to send you a new set that fits, and then send a call tag for the bad ones. That way, its no skin off your back <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

As for the issue with the LCA, the BMR width of the bushing is very narrow compared to the G2 stuff, as you probably noticed. This is why I asked, because the only fitment problem that I have seen is that exact scenario.

Good luck! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />

Robert P

G2.. thanks again, but I don't think you'll need to call them Monday. I'll talk to Rick about it.. I believe I'll only need one side of the v brace. It's not going to be a big problem I don't think.

Rob <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

WOOS1

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I just wanted to say that this is a great way to handle fitment issues. I had some with "another brand" of SFC's. They sent me new ones, but I was supposed to pay for the shipping back them (very heavy diamond types). My hat's off to Lou and his crew.

niphilli

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by WOOS1:
<strong>I just wanted to say that this is a great way to handle fitment issues. I had some with "another brand" of SFC's. They sent me new ones, but I was supposed to pay for the shipping back them (very heavy diamond types). My hat's off to Lou and his crew.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Dont think they handle all of their customers this way. I have sepnt about 2K on G2 suspension products (which for the most part are the best on the market) and they made me eat shipping to and fro on a STB that did not fit at all. Not to mention I had to eat 2hrs worth of leighbor with a local suspension shop dicking with this thing trying to get it to fit, after I could not get it to fit myself. Maybe I should have complained to Lewis on this board first.

-Nick

Fulton 1

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Robert,
It sounds like you have the LCA issue solved, but I thought I'd chime in anyway since I'm sure you won't be the last to have this problem.

It seems there's some variance in the size of the axle attach brackets both stock and certainly when using aftermarket relocation brackets. I'm willing to bet that there isn't a great variance in the G2 ends simply because most rod ends are a relatively precision machined part and the spacers are probably NC'ed or at least cut to a standard spec. So I blame assembly tolerance from the factory and/or vendor-to-vendor differences. The nice thing is that the G2 rod end spacers seem to run on the big side and its easier to remove material than add it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

If you find that your rod ends are too large to fit in your particular LCA brackets do the following:

- If you don't have a set, spend a few bucks on a cheap set of digital calipers (I prefer digital over dial since they're easier to read - especially when laying under the car, etc.). They should have at least 3" of travel (4-6" would be preferred). You can get them cheap (~$20) through www.harborfreight.com for example. No need for the fancy $150 units unless you're using them a lot, using them with data acquisition software, etc., IMO.

- Assemble the rod ends with the dust boots and spacers just as they would be on the car. Make sure the spacers are compressed as far into the rod end as possible. Measure the max end-to-end distance and note it. Do this for both sides.

- Now measure the clearance distance on both of your axle LCA clevis brackets/relocation brackets and note.

- Assuming that the measured width of your assembled rod ends is greater than the clearance in your axle-mounted LCA brackets, subtract the two numbers and divide by two. This will give you the amount to remove from the big end of each spacer on that side (please note that you have to remove the material from the big end of the spacer or it won't work!).

- Now any competent machine shop with a lathe can remove the desired amount of material from each of the spacers.

Since there is some variance from side to side, its best to install the spacers in the same location and with the same LCA with which you did the measuring. Also, note that when measuring using the digital calipers you can safely round to the nearest 0.01".

Finally, know that the G2 ends use the stock 12mm bolt size. BMR, for example, uses a 1/2" bolt. So if you have relocation brackets make sure you have a pair of 12mm bolts and locking nuts to use because the 1/2 won't fit through the G2 spacers. I used an M12 x 1.5 (fine pitch) bolt. Make sure to use Class 10.9 bolts for this app (that's the metric equivalent to Grade 8). For my BMR relocation brackets the length was 100mm. Your length may vary. Try to get at least 3 threads out of the back of the nut and you'll be fine.

Hope that helps. Feel free to email me if anyone has any questions on this. BTW, my local machine shop guy charged me $10 to do the machining and it took him about 10 minutes. It's worked out perfectly. <img border="0" alt="[chug]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_chug.gif" />

<small>[ November 29, 2002, 12:03 PM: Message edited by: Fulton 1 ]</small>