G-Stop installation pointers needed
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G-Stop installation pointers needed Hi got the G-Stop bracket and DBA C5 slotted rotors from Lou. They should be here next week. Please give me any tips on how to intall them. I did order the SS braided hoses provided but is the stock hose OK to use if I don't want to bleed the brakes?
Thanks all,
Leo
Thanks all,
Leo
Re: G-Stop installation pointers needed The biggest hurdle to overcome is the brackets. There really is no tip I can think of to help you get it right.
Just go slow. You might have to test fit everything first to be sure it's correctly oriented.
Use Loctite ...
After fitted, turn the wheels lock to lock to make sure you have enough slack in the brake lines and the calipers/brackets all clear the lower A-Arm.
Just go slow. You might have to test fit everything first to be sure it's correctly oriented.
Use Loctite ...
After fitted, turn the wheels lock to lock to make sure you have enough slack in the brake lines and the calipers/brackets all clear the lower A-Arm.
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Re: G-Stop installation pointers needed </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by mitchntx:
<strong> The biggest hurdle to overcome is the brackets. There really is no tip I can think of to help you get it right.
Just go slow. You might have to test fit everything first to be sure it's correctly oriented.
Use Loctite ...
After fitted, turn the wheels lock to lock to make sure you have enough slack in the brake lines and the calipers/brackets all clear the lower A-Arm. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hi Mitch,
Thanks! I see you're wailing the heck out of them at the track. Will be using mine mainly on the street and drags trapping at up to 120mph.
I can visualize the installation already. Won't be much different than when I installed my Poweslots. After mounting the rotor, instead of bolting the caliper housing directly on the strut, mount the bracket on the strut and bolt the caliper housing to bracket.
Do you know if the compact spare fit on the front wheels once installed. If you don't know will have to try it. If not when I get a flat in the front can I switch my 315s from the back to the front. That way I can use the compact spare on the back.
I will be reusing my Quiet Stops that are 3/4 worn from my Power Slots. I have a lifetime replacement on them from Kragen so I have to do it. They will just have to bed themselves in best they can.
Leo
<strong> The biggest hurdle to overcome is the brackets. There really is no tip I can think of to help you get it right.
Just go slow. You might have to test fit everything first to be sure it's correctly oriented.
Use Loctite ...
After fitted, turn the wheels lock to lock to make sure you have enough slack in the brake lines and the calipers/brackets all clear the lower A-Arm. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hi Mitch,
Thanks! I see you're wailing the heck out of them at the track. Will be using mine mainly on the street and drags trapping at up to 120mph.
I can visualize the installation already. Won't be much different than when I installed my Poweslots. After mounting the rotor, instead of bolting the caliper housing directly on the strut, mount the bracket on the strut and bolt the caliper housing to bracket.
Do you know if the compact spare fit on the front wheels once installed. If you don't know will have to try it. If not when I get a flat in the front can I switch my 315s from the back to the front. That way I can use the compact spare on the back.
I will be reusing my Quiet Stops that are 3/4 worn from my Power Slots. I have a lifetime replacement on them from Kragen so I have to do it. They will just have to bed themselves in best they can.
Leo
Re: G-Stop installation pointers needed I don't know if the spare will fit or not. There might be enough offset in the spare's rim that it would clear.
I know stock 16" rims won't clear ...
I know stock 16" rims won't clear ...
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Re: G-Stop installation pointers needed Mitch was a great source of info when I installed my G-stop kit, but I can't emphasize this part enough:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by mitchntx:
<strong> [snip]
Use Loctite ...
[snip]</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">USE LOCTITE. USE LOCTITE. USE LOCTITE. USE LOCTITE. USE LOCTITE. USE LOCTITE. USE LOCTITE.
Luckily, I heard the caliper 'clunking' before it came completely off on me... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
Shane
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by mitchntx:
<strong> [snip]
Use Loctite ...
[snip]</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">USE LOCTITE. USE LOCTITE. USE LOCTITE. USE LOCTITE. USE LOCTITE. USE LOCTITE. USE LOCTITE.
Luckily, I heard the caliper 'clunking' before it came completely off on me... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
Shane
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Re: G-Stop installation pointers needed Has anyone used the Aimco C5 rotors with the relocation brackets? Just thinking that if the C5 Aimco rotors are just as good as the Fbody Aimco rotors, would it be cheaper to use them instead of the DBA rotors from LG? Just curious.
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Re: G-Stop installation pointers needed </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Shane:
<strong> Mitch was a great source of info when I installed my G-stop kit, but I can't emphasize this part enough:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by mitchntx:
<strong> [snip]
Use Loctite ...
[snip]</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">USE LOCTITE. USE LOCTITE. USE LOCTITE. USE LOCTITE. USE LOCTITE. USE LOCTITE. USE LOCTITE.
Luckily, I heard the caliper 'clunking' before it came completely off on me... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
Shane </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Did you locktite the caliper bolts to the bracket only? Not the bracket bolts to the strut?
Leo
<strong> Mitch was a great source of info when I installed my G-stop kit, but I can't emphasize this part enough:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by mitchntx:
<strong> [snip]
Use Loctite ...
[snip]</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">USE LOCTITE. USE LOCTITE. USE LOCTITE. USE LOCTITE. USE LOCTITE. USE LOCTITE. USE LOCTITE.
Luckily, I heard the caliper 'clunking' before it came completely off on me... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
Shane </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Did you locktite the caliper bolts to the bracket only? Not the bracket bolts to the strut?
Leo
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Re: G-Stop installation pointers needed I use loctite red on the large bolts that attach the abutment bracket to the LG bracket AND the large bolts that attach the LG bracket to the spindle. Tighten to 78ft/lbs.
I rarely use loctite on the caliper bolts.
I've never had an issue with these bolts. They only tighten to 23ft/lbs.
I rarely use loctite on the caliper bolts.
I've never had an issue with these bolts. They only tighten to 23ft/lbs.
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Re: G-Stop installation pointers needed </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by mitchntx:
<strong> I use loctite red on the large bolts that attach the abutment bracket to the LG bracket AND the large bolts that attach the LG bracket to the spindle. Tighten to 78ft/lbs.
I rarely use loctite on the caliper bolts.
I've never had an issue with these bolts. They only tighten to 23ft/lbs. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks!
Where is the abutment bracket? Do you mean the caliper housing bracket?
I ran NASA HPDE 1 at California Speedway today. I had to let all the fast little imports by cause I just could keep up with them in the turns. My first time in a track event, and I have to say it takes 100% concentration for each 20 minute session. There were 4 sessions and the last one I just didn't have it anymore. I was holding up too many drivers so I left the track before my session was up. I applaud you guys who choose run track!
Leo
<small>[ March 09, 2003, 10:14 PM: Message edited by: pedaltothemetal ]</small>
<strong> I use loctite red on the large bolts that attach the abutment bracket to the LG bracket AND the large bolts that attach the LG bracket to the spindle. Tighten to 78ft/lbs.
I rarely use loctite on the caliper bolts.
I've never had an issue with these bolts. They only tighten to 23ft/lbs. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks!
Where is the abutment bracket? Do you mean the caliper housing bracket?
I ran NASA HPDE 1 at California Speedway today. I had to let all the fast little imports by cause I just could keep up with them in the turns. My first time in a track event, and I have to say it takes 100% concentration for each 20 minute session. There were 4 sessions and the last one I just didn't have it anymore. I was holding up too many drivers so I left the track before my session was up. I applaud you guys who choose run track!
Leo
<small>[ March 09, 2003, 10:14 PM: Message edited by: pedaltothemetal ]</small>
Re: G-Stop installation pointers needed The abutment bracket is the "C" shaped bracket that the brake pads fit inside of on either side of the rotor.
It's tough to hit a road course for the first time. It can be a humbling experience. My first time out I was lapped twice by a 4 door Saturn in a 20 minute session.
Learning how to drive your car is the toughest part. I have learned that I can't brake with those lighter cars, but with my added torque, I can out accelerate them off the corners. So, it's a matter of learning what your car's limitations and strengths are for a given course and maximizing the effect. Conversely, learn what the weaknesses are and minimize their effects.
And concentration is paramount. Kudos to you for recognizing brain fade and getting off track. That says a lot about your character and skill level.
It's tough to hit a road course for the first time. It can be a humbling experience. My first time out I was lapped twice by a 4 door Saturn in a 20 minute session.
Learning how to drive your car is the toughest part. I have learned that I can't brake with those lighter cars, but with my added torque, I can out accelerate them off the corners. So, it's a matter of learning what your car's limitations and strengths are for a given course and maximizing the effect. Conversely, learn what the weaknesses are and minimize their effects.
And concentration is paramount. Kudos to you for recognizing brain fade and getting off track. That says a lot about your character and skill level.
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Re: G-Stop installation pointers needed </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by mitchntx:
<strong> The abutment bracket is the "C" shaped bracket that the brake pads fit inside of on either side of the rotor.
It's tough to hit a road course for the first time. It can be a humbling experience. My first time out I was lapped twice by a 4 door Saturn in a 20 minute session.
Learning how to drive your car is the toughest part. I have learned that I can't brake with those lighter cars, but with my added torque, I can out accelerate them off the corners. So, it's a matter of learning what your car's limitations and strengths are for a given course and maximizing the effect. Conversely, learn what the weaknesses are and minimize their effects.
And concentration is paramount. Kudos to you for recognizing brain fade and getting off track. That says a lot about your character and skill level. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hi Mitch,
Will all stock pads fit with the C5 rotor and stock caliper. You mentioned in another thread the C5 rotor is a lot wider. I was worried I won't be able to get the caliper on the abutment with new pads.
Here was the course layout. On the straights you can hit 140 mph. The straight was on the oval itself and with 18deg banks on the turn you can feel the G forces pushing the car down! Scared the hell out of me.
<img src="https://www.nasaproracing.com/socal/fontana_sctrackmap.gif" alt=" - " />
<strong> The abutment bracket is the "C" shaped bracket that the brake pads fit inside of on either side of the rotor.
It's tough to hit a road course for the first time. It can be a humbling experience. My first time out I was lapped twice by a 4 door Saturn in a 20 minute session.
Learning how to drive your car is the toughest part. I have learned that I can't brake with those lighter cars, but with my added torque, I can out accelerate them off the corners. So, it's a matter of learning what your car's limitations and strengths are for a given course and maximizing the effect. Conversely, learn what the weaknesses are and minimize their effects.
And concentration is paramount. Kudos to you for recognizing brain fade and getting off track. That says a lot about your character and skill level. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hi Mitch,
Will all stock pads fit with the C5 rotor and stock caliper. You mentioned in another thread the C5 rotor is a lot wider. I was worried I won't be able to get the caliper on the abutment with new pads.
Here was the course layout. On the straights you can hit 140 mph. The straight was on the oval itself and with 18deg banks on the turn you can feel the G forces pushing the car down! Scared the hell out of me.
<img src="https://www.nasaproracing.com/socal/fontana_sctrackmap.gif" alt=" - " />
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Re: G-Stop installation pointers needed If you decide to install the stainless lines if you have 4 channel abs (aka traction control) you will not use the center back line. Good luck.
P.S. I did not use loctite on any bolts and haven't had a problem yet. Knock on wood. I just tightened the sh@t out of them.
P.S. I did not use loctite on any bolts and haven't had a problem yet. Knock on wood. I just tightened the sh@t out of them.