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Old 03-06-2007, 09:02 PM
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I've seen Sam's car up on a trailer. I was standing there looking under it and didn't realize that it had headers on it. I didn't see anything hanging down that made me go "gee, headers". They tucked up well enough that I didn't even pay attention to them and they didn't draw attention to themselves either. Probably one of the best (if not the best) fitting set of headers (as far as ground clearance is concerned) I've ever seen.
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here's a pic of my Hooker LT's and y-pipe. The lowest component I have is either my driveshaft loop or the left side of my Y-pipe. My Hooker headers tuck up REAL nice. I am lowered ~1" and I don't have any issues with anything dragging.

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Originally Posted by gollum
I can see why a shorty headers would not drag and I have seen pictures of a new TRI-Y LONG tube header with twin 2.5" collectors that I know would clear most anything. But all current 4 into1 long tube headers will drag when lowered.

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My kooks don't drag on any even bumpy pavement. They may possibly if I go over a hill hump, or get out of one of those uneven driveways, but I think other things would drag before they would. Beat that into your head.

Use the search. It's a well known fact that SLP have lower clearance than almost all other long tubes.

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This is just one tread of several about people being unhappy with there 1.3" lowering springs. Just do a search in the suspension section under dragging, scrapping, too low, etc.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...light=dragging

My SLP springs will be delivered here by UPS on Thursday.
Old 03-07-2007, 05:19 AM
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Here's Stainless Works late model Fbody headers
http://www.stainlessworks.net/cart/i...80_247_256_257
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Originally Posted by gollum
This is just one tread of several about people being unhappy with there 1.3" lowering springs. Just do a search in the suspension section under dragging, scrapping, too low, etc.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...light=dragging

My SLP springs will be delivered here by UPS on Thursday.
Thats why he listed a couple options besides his springs that lower it 1.2-1.3 inches including the SLP springs you bought.
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Originally Posted by gollum
This is just one tread of several about people being unhappy with there 1.3" lowering springs. Just do a search in the suspension section under dragging, scrapping, too low, etc.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...light=dragging

My SLP springs will be delivered here by UPS on Thursday.
Alright man...time to take a step back. You need to start thinking before you start posting stuff like this.

The springs in question in your first hyperlink are the Eibach Prokits. Those springs are WELL KNOWN to drop the car more than their advertised 1.3". In reality, it ends up closer to 1.75"-2". That was even eluded to by the poster (who said his was dropped 1.75"). That IS too low...but that's not what Sam's springs drop (he made sure they drop an exact 1.2" with testing). If you would have looked into this, you would have known of this issue.

You are the one that chose headers with the worst ground clearance. You now have to pay that price. If you would have done the leg work, you would have realized this, and steered away from them. My Kooks headers are NOT the lowest point on my car, and there is no arguing that point. You are making a blanket statement without taking all the facts into account.
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Originally Posted by gollum
Sam ... are your headers guaranteed not to drag when lowered, if so I will buy a set. How much do they cost with CATS and Ypipe included? My local Summit store has some VERY AGGRESSIVE speed bumps (the high plastic ones) which my car with stock springs and SLP headers will barely clear. Yes KOOKS will drag also when lowered, SLP headers only hang about 1/2" inch lower for better floor pan clearence. I have heard of instances where some floor pan hugging headers (KOOKS, QTP) will knock against the floor pan at idle and while excellerating.

Get it into your thick skull...the Kooks headers themselves WILL NOT DRAG. They simply do not hang low enough to do so. My SLP subframes hang lower than my headers. You have very little grasp on reality.
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That is the reason I put the ground control set-up on my car. I can pick the spring rate and adjust the ride height to what ever I want. Works great. Does not cost that much more. Get what you want. The best of all world.
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wow, started off with springs rates, moved to headers, and then a reversal to buying springs




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Originally Posted by gollum
My SLP springs will be delivered here by UPS on Thursday.
The last car that I installed SLP springs on didn't drop the front at all. None. The rear looks great, the front looks stock. I hope you have better luck.
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As an SLP dealer I appreciate the fact you supported the one vendor who came in here looking to help. That's sarcasm, I never even got the chance to price the parts...
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Originally Posted by Sam Strano
As an SLP dealer I appreciate the fact you supported the one vendor who came in here looking to help. That's sarcasm, I never even got the chance to price the parts...



another reason i'm lookin for the good ole sam...just the way it was written, i figured he didnt talk to you or order throuh you
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I just looked at that thread link Gollum posted. I might give the soda can test a try myself this weekend just for sh*ts and giggles. I didn't however find anything that would indicade a widespread opinion that longtubes drag.

Sure if I go over a speedbump big enough, I might drag. And if I go over it at 40 mph I'm gonna hit something. I did end up bumping something last weekend that was metal. Just because you hit something going over a speedbump too fast, doesnt mean you will drag stuff on a bumpier than normal road
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Originally Posted by Sam Strano
As an SLP dealer I appreciate the fact you supported the one vendor who came in here looking to help. That's sarcasm, I never even got the chance to price the parts...
That's because he obviously knows more than you, Sam.

/sarcasm


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Originally Posted by trackbird
The last car that I installed SLP springs on didn't drop the front at all. None. The rear looks great, the front looks stock. I hope you have better luck.
The stiffer front 0.50" drop SLP springs will work perfectly with my future 100lb heavier iron block project. The extra 100lbs WILL lower the front even more.

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You really don't get it..... The springs are stiffer because they are lower. But the amount stiffer they are isn't much relative to the lowering. Basically you just exchanged a little rate for a little height.

And lest we forget... LT1's are iron blocked cars and we use the same shocks/springs, etc. on them.

Never mind, I'm clearly clueless here.
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Sam...adding 100 more pounds on the front will not lower my 2002 SS? I know when I prop against the front fender the front of car will lower.
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The SLP springs are the perfect spring for my future iron block project.

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I'm an SLP dealer I guess you missed that. SLP springs don't jeopardize my business. Maybe you're right though, because I tend to sell what I know works correctly for the job, and I don't like to sell things based on poor assumptions and understandings. Clearly I'm missing out on easy money.

And FWIW, I couldn't have sold you stock springs, which is what I said might be the best option in the first place.
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