3pt sfc's that much better than 2 pt?
07-05-2008, 12:21 PM
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It's only my opinion. I do like the tubular design and how they tuck up close, but from the metalwork/tubing work I've done, I just do not like round tube welded to flat plate like that. It's the only thing I don't like about them, other than that they are very nice.
03-21-2010, 07:00 PM
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03-22-2010, 07:57 AM
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Going with a set of 3 Point SFC's will definitely make the vehicle more solid. And you will not have any clearance issues using our 3 point SFC's either. If you have any other questions feel free to ask.
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03-22-2010, 08:32 PM
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thanks for the quick response Brad. good to know they will fit.
im on 17x9 gm wheels. was riding on crap f1 tires but i just put my gsd3's on yesterday w/4k miles on them. It already rides 10x better w/good tires. i run like 30lbs in front, 28 rear.
front shocks are 4 turns from full hard, rears a quarter turn from full soft.
i do alot of city driving on **** roads up here so certain bumps&hits just seem to upset the entire car more than my hardtop. i drove that car 6 years and it just felt more solid to me. That car was on bilstein hd's.
figure i'd try out the bolt ins to see how much of a difference it makes, if any. i know ive read 4th gen. hardtops aren't much stiffer than the t-tops, but having both i do notice something different. idk maybe ill search some more b4 adding sfc's.
im on 17x9 gm wheels. was riding on crap f1 tires but i just put my gsd3's on yesterday w/4k miles on them. It already rides 10x better w/good tires. i run like 30lbs in front, 28 rear.
front shocks are 4 turns from full hard, rears a quarter turn from full soft.
i do alot of city driving on **** roads up here so certain bumps&hits just seem to upset the entire car more than my hardtop. i drove that car 6 years and it just felt more solid to me. That car was on bilstein hd's.
figure i'd try out the bolt ins to see how much of a difference it makes, if any. i know ive read 4th gen. hardtops aren't much stiffer than the t-tops, but having both i do notice something different. idk maybe ill search some more b4 adding sfc's.
03-22-2010, 10:23 PM
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Not saying right or wrong here, but.... There is a whole crowd of folks that think any car, drag raced or not, big power or not, need SFC's to survive.
I'm simply trying to say that if you are of the mindset that the car is a flexible mess and needs SFC's then you need to decide how much "stiffer" you want the car. It's a personal call. I just feel that if you really think you need them why not put on 3-pts? Ok, they cost a few bucks more and that's a consideration, but in the end if you feel the car needs a lot of help $100 for something that will be in place for..... ever isn't a lot of money.
I sell 2's and 3's... A sale is a sale, and it doesn't matter which you were to buy if you bought from me in terms of getting a sale. What does matter to me is that you get the best part for you wants or needs. That might be a 2-pt, it might be a 3. Might be weld-in, could be bolt in. I can't really say. I'm just trying to play devil's advocate so you can think about the pro's and con's.
2 points save you money. 3 points are stiffer.
I'm simply trying to say that if you are of the mindset that the car is a flexible mess and needs SFC's then you need to decide how much "stiffer" you want the car. It's a personal call. I just feel that if you really think you need them why not put on 3-pts? Ok, they cost a few bucks more and that's a consideration, but in the end if you feel the car needs a lot of help $100 for something that will be in place for..... ever isn't a lot of money.
I sell 2's and 3's... A sale is a sale, and it doesn't matter which you were to buy if you bought from me in terms of getting a sale. What does matter to me is that you get the best part for you wants or needs. That might be a 2-pt, it might be a 3. Might be weld-in, could be bolt in. I can't really say. I'm just trying to play devil's advocate so you can think about the pro's and con's.
2 points save you money. 3 points are stiffer.
03-23-2010, 07:21 AM
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thanks for the quick response Brad. good to know they will fit. figure i'd try out the bolt ins to see how much of a difference it makes, if any. i know ive read 4th gen. hardtops aren't much stiffer than the t-tops, but having both i do notice something different. idk maybe ill search some more b4 adding sfc's.
No Problem! Just some other info for you about our SFC's. The reason why we offer both versions bolt on and weld is because not all of our customers have access to a welder and as long as they are torqued to spec there wont be any issues. And if later down the road you can always have the bolt on SFC's welded. I just figured I would throw that out there for you.
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03-23-2010, 02:52 PM
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I only have shipped weights (boxed up, etc). Both are listed @ about 50 pounds per set. CM's save some weight, about 5 pounds or so in reality vs. mild steel.
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03-23-2010, 03:09 PM
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That's a personal decision. The older the car, the more beat on it is, the bigger and bigger the difference.
Do I think they are required? No, most especially when decent shocks are in use. Are they bad? Hell no. Can they help? Yes, most especially on older cars.
I can't tell you if you'd love them or not. Do you want to hedge your bets, stiffen the unibody? Then do them. If you really don't find the car to be a quivering mess then I'd have to say pass.
Do I think they are required? No, most especially when decent shocks are in use. Are they bad? Hell no. Can they help? Yes, most especially on older cars.
I can't tell you if you'd love them or not. Do you want to hedge your bets, stiffen the unibody? Then do them. If you really don't find the car to be a quivering mess then I'd have to say pass.
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03-23-2010, 03:13 PM
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Good to know. I was planning on doing them just for piece of mind. My car tends to be pretty stiff (only 67k miles) and I would like to keep it that way. I'm doing a full suspension in the future, but I think I might do these now to tide me over a bit. Thanks for the advice Sam.
