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Old 07-21-2008, 12:31 PM
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I think it dose change the pinon angle a little bit on a soild TA. Not a huge about but it would change with the front mounting point change.
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Originally Posted by studderin
I think it dose change the pinon angle a little bit on a soild TA. Not a huge about but it would change with the front mounting point change.
Yes, if you change the front mounting point it would.. we have one setting that is factory setting and leaves the torque arm in the original position. If you trying making instant center changes with a stock or non-adjustable torque arm it would change the pinion angle.
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Originally Posted by studderin
I really like my BMR, it has alot of adjustment. And I like that the fastest cars use BMR parts, not just the cheapest knock off copies. The car shifts so much better with the TA off the trans, at 1st it felt weird WOT like I missed the gear. But after a day you get used to the shifter not moving up, same for bumps on the hyway. Its all smooth now, the car shifts alot better.

Nice looking install let me know if you need any help with the setup...

Thanks again for the purchase
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I think I'm going to go with the Umi. I've always been a BMR/Spohn guy but I just like the way that one looks for some reason. I was just under there lookin around. How many bolts hold the stock TA mount to the tranny? I see two on the bottom from the bottom but can't remember if there's a 3rd up top. Did you guys have to drop your Y pipes to install it?
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Originally Posted by INMY01TA
I think I'm going to go with the Umi. I've always been a BMR/Spohn guy but I just like the way that one looks for some reason. I was just under there lookin around. How many bolts hold the stock TA mount to the tranny? I see two on the bottom from the bottom but can't remember if there's a 3rd up top. Did you guys have to drop your Y pipes to install it?
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There are (4) bolts that hold the crossmember to the vehicle, (1) that attaches to the transmission and there will now be (4) bolts that mount the torque arm to the new relocation kit. You shouldn't have to remove the y-pipe, it may require you to loosen it but the install is a breeze... also with our unit there is no ground clearance lost or weight added to the car.

Let me know if I can help anymore. Thanks!
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Thanx but I meant how many bolts holding the stock ta mount to the tranny. I see two but don't recall if there's a third. I'll be giving you a call later today.
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Originally Posted by INMY01TA
Thanx but I meant how many bolts holding the stock ta mount to the tranny. I see two but don't recall if there's a third. I'll be giving you a call later today.
Yes there is a third up top.. with this kit you can eliminate that entire clamshell assemble, which is a plus as well.

Thanks again!
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Originally Posted by 99345hp
Can you use the stock torque arm with these relocation crossmembers? I dont really have the need for a aftermarket torque arm right now, but I see a lot of people say it makes the shifting easier.
I just bought a TH400 crossmember from yank and it allows me to use my stock torque arm. They are on sale right now for only $149 and the peice looks very nice. As far as I know I can use the stock clamshell, I told em I was gonna use my stock torque arm and tehy dindt tell me I needed a special 1 peice bushing or anything at all extra. I have not installed it yet though.

http://www.converter.cc/crossmembers/
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Let me know if I can help anymore. Thanks!
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Has this been shipped yet? I ordered last Thurs morning and was told I'd get a tracking # upon shipment. Figured it should be here already as I'm in a neighboring state.
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+1 for the UMI piece.

I got mine a few months back, and the car feels really solid, even with a stock-stamped steel TA back under it.

One thing though, if you have True Duals and have your brake/fuel lines flipped, you do need to put a piece of rubber (I used trans line) between the lines and Relo Bracket, otherwise they'll probably develop a hole pretty quickly, just a heads-up. I'm sure there's a better solution, but I'm lazy and it's averaging 100+ degrees outside right now.
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What I would like to see, is a relocating crossmember with
adjustable TA point and vibration isolating mounts. I had an
old Yank on there for a while and it was stout as hell but the
cabin rattling was really bad. The trans tail mass on bungy
mount is great for that.
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Originally Posted by INMY01TA
Has this been shipped yet? I ordered last Thurs morning and was told I'd get a tracking # upon shipment. Figured it should be here already as I'm in a neighboring state.

It left here yesterday, I will PM you the tracking information now in case you didn't receive it via e-mail.
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Got it today thanx.
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Excellent to hear
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so the instant center adjustment is different from pinion angle adjustment?

or are these 2 terms to describe the same thing....which is the angle of the rear end?

basically does the adjustment on the TA relocation bracket do the same thing (just by a different means) as the adjustment that is found on adjustable Torque arms??
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Umi Umi Umi
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Originally Posted by teke184
so the instant center adjustment is different from pinion angle adjustment?

or are these 2 terms to describe the same thing....which is the angle of the rear end?

basically does the adjustment on the TA relocation bracket do the same thing (just by a different means) as the adjustment that is found on adjustable Torque arms??
2 different things.
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Originally Posted by Wild *****
I love my UMI- not familiar with the BMR- anything you do will be an improvment over what GM did- take the torque loads off the back of the tranny, and make it easier to lay down power-

I put mine on with the 3-pt SFC's, but then I like to make sure- "too much is just enough"
What did this setup run ya? I am considering it.
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ok...so thye are 2 different things....but in my head they seem to do the same thing.

adjusting the lower nut on the adj. TA changes the angle that the driveshaft has in relation to the pinion.

by moving the front of the TA up or down, you are still changing that angle.

so is there something else that is measured to make these 2 terms "different"??




next question....

if i'm running a stock TA, with an upgraded poly bushing on the mount...will this work with the relocation bracket?
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yes they change the same angel the rear adjuster just movers the angel faster than the mount one does.

yes it will work


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