2011 Duramax = 397 hp and 765 tq!
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but it still can't carry as much and can't tow as much as ford :\. Ford still has a big advantage due to its twin turbo set up. GM has an upper hand with its Allison Trannys, but dodge has the Cummins/Aisin combo. I am a GM fan, but if i were getting a diesel truck, it'd probably be a Cummins. Ford builds their own drivetrains, that would steer me away from them.
the only people that i could see buying the ford over the GM diesel is because they are a hot shot driver... my personal opinion on the 3, i would get the chevy duramax east, WAY more comfterable than the dodge or ford yes even the king ranch... i have been in all three and the chevy takes the cake, IMO...
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Nice stock numbers, but a Dodge will do those numbers with a tuner on the low (tow) setting. GM simply made the very minor tweeks from the factory.
Honestly, if I was buying brand new right now, I'd probably go with the Ford. I'm sure the 2011 Dodge will be rated right up there with Ford and GM.
Here's my weak *** tuned Dodge (Mega Cab 4x4) on the highway. Notice, the mph needle shows no signs of slowing down anytime soon. I had to let off because of traffic in front of me.
Not bad for a truck that weighs nearly 4 tons.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZZi4wt2O_0
Honestly, if I was buying brand new right now, I'd probably go with the Ford. I'm sure the 2011 Dodge will be rated right up there with Ford and GM.
Here's my weak *** tuned Dodge (Mega Cab 4x4) on the highway. Notice, the mph needle shows no signs of slowing down anytime soon. I had to let off because of traffic in front of me.
Not bad for a truck that weighs nearly 4 tons.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZZi4wt2O_0
The new 6.7 cummins sux!!!!
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now for the avg person, think about this, im saying this very nicely by the way, im just emphasizing... WHAT IN THE HELL ARE YOU GOING TO TOW THAT WEIGHS OVER 20,000lbs??????
the only people that i could see buying the ford over the GM diesel is because they are a hot shot driver... my personal opinion on the 3, i would get the chevy duramax east, WAY more comfterable than the dodge or ford yes even the king ranch... i have been in all three and the chevy takes the cake, IMO...
the only people that i could see buying the ford over the GM diesel is because they are a hot shot driver... my personal opinion on the 3, i would get the chevy duramax east, WAY more comfterable than the dodge or ford yes even the king ranch... i have been in all three and the chevy takes the cake, IMO...
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I use to live out in the country and most everyone put their trucks to use with horse trailers, hay bales and such. And it's not how much you can pull, it's also how comfortably you can pull it. Those new trucks can pull a car and trailer like it's not even there, but my step dads Dakota is a life or death experience. But yeah, it is getting a little silly. Trucks are starting to surpass what most people use them for in towing.
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explain? i've heard a couple of truck guys tell me that the new diesels have too much emissions and stuff like that but i dont know much about diesels and so yeah... although i do want like a 04-07 classic CC duramax 4X4 that is my dream truck...
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now for the avg person, think about this, im saying this very nicely by the way, im just emphasizing... WHAT IN THE HELL ARE YOU GOING TO TOW THAT WEIGHS OVER 20,000lbs??????
the only people that i could see buying the ford over the GM diesel is because they are a hot shot driver... my personal opinion on the 3, i would get the chevy duramax east, WAY more comfterable than the dodge or ford yes even the king ranch... i have been in all three and the chevy takes the cake, IMO...
the only people that i could see buying the ford over the GM diesel is because they are a hot shot driver... my personal opinion on the 3, i would get the chevy duramax east, WAY more comfterable than the dodge or ford yes even the king ranch... i have been in all three and the chevy takes the cake, IMO...
Very good point there. But i'm just saying man, what IF i needed to tow that much? What if man lol. I agree with your comfort statement, chevys are sweet inside i think.
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But the new cummins are nice but dodge's are built to cheap for me every one i've been in hurts my back plus the dash and doors looks cheap I can just go on......But they do look good !
And the fords have been down since the 7.3 I think the new ones have been nothing but trouble I have a buddy that's a ford mechanic. And he even told me not to buy a FORD LOL, he said go with a cummins but I already gave my reason I didn't go that way and i'm GM all the way !
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But the new cummins are nice but dodge's are built to cheap for me every one i've been in hurts my back plus the dash and doors looks cheap I can just go on......But they do look good !
And the fords have been down since the 7.3 I think the new ones have been nothing but trouble I have a buddy that's a ford mechanic. And he even told me not to buy a FORD LOL, he said go with a cummins but I already gave my reason I didn't go that way and i'm GM all the way!
And the fords have been down since the 7.3 I think the new ones have been nothing but trouble I have a buddy that's a ford mechanic. And he even told me not to buy a FORD LOL, he said go with a cummins but I already gave my reason I didn't go that way and i'm GM all the way!
My actual truck's interior:
The 2010 Dodge's interior is far from cheap looking.
Ford did go downhill with the 6.0's but the new Powerstrokes are holding up real well and they can make and hold up to some SERIOUS POWER.
I think any new model of the big 3 would make an excellent driver/hauler. It really comes down to a matter of personal opinion on the styling. They all have great power.
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And I knew you were going to reply ROSS LOL, and it's all personal opinion
And for the new dodge 2010's very nice I like them alot Dodge did a great job on the interior, they went from about a 2 to a 10 on the inside. They the new bodystyle looks great as well, But nothing beats a GMC bodystyle NOTHING !!!!! LOL
And also after I lowered my dually it rides great best ride in a truck that I have ever had.
And for the new dodge 2010's very nice I like them alot Dodge did a great job on the interior, they went from about a 2 to a 10 on the inside. They the new bodystyle looks great as well, But nothing beats a GMC bodystyle NOTHING !!!!! LOL
And also after I lowered my dually it rides great best ride in a truck that I have ever had.
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We Use Ford and Chevys out here in the oil patch. Dodge dont stand up to the roads, or lack of roads as well as the other two. They are Ok for the paved roads and die hard dodge fans. Pulling power I like the GM and for the ride. I liked the older 7.3 also and hope the 2011 ford deisel is improved on the regen and power. In my department we have from 250s-550s. 2 and 4 wheel drive and all cab models. The interiors are spartan cause we dont get them for that. The dodges look nice at first, but some companies had more problems with their blue diesel emission stuff than the fords regen. But we do use heavy duty trucks to the max and then some on every aspect of performance. Now if its a HP war anyone wants to fight go ahead. We dont use any aftermarket programers on our equipment. All stock.
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And I knew you were going to reply ROSS LOL, and it's all personal opinion
And for the new dodge 2010's very nice I like them alot Dodge did a great job on the interior, they went from about a 2 to a 10 on the inside. They the new bodystyle looks great as well, But nothing beats a GMC bodystyle NOTHING !!!!! LOL
And also after I lowered my dually it rides great best ride in a truck that I have ever had.
And for the new dodge 2010's very nice I like them alot Dodge did a great job on the interior, they went from about a 2 to a 10 on the inside. They the new bodystyle looks great as well, But nothing beats a GMC bodystyle NOTHING !!!!! LOL
And also after I lowered my dually it rides great best ride in a truck that I have ever had.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A
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i have just a little experience with the newer trucks (we have a 04 LQ4 2500HD) and the LBZ has got to be one of the best diesels IMO that GM ever had. as for the newer diesel, its similar from what I understand, just a bit beefier internals, better tuning, and more emissions. Is that accurate?
Also, i have heard strictly rumors about the new Ford and Dodge motors being junk. anyone have the facts on that?
The autos have REALLY come around in the dodge trucks from what I understand but being its a solid axle, they ride shitty...just like the Ford when compared to IFS in the GM trucks. But in their defense, IMO solid axle can stand up to more and i'd suffer ride quality for a stouter drivetrain.
Also, i have heard strictly rumors about the new Ford and Dodge motors being junk. anyone have the facts on that?
The autos have REALLY come around in the dodge trucks from what I understand but being its a solid axle, they ride shitty...just like the Ford when compared to IFS in the GM trucks. But in their defense, IMO solid axle can stand up to more and i'd suffer ride quality for a stouter drivetrain.