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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 12:47 PM
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I actually had a chance to run one yesterday. It was a manual with exhaust. I did have my girl in the car so that has a slight effect Im sure. Letting him get the jump and 2 cars ahead starting point from 60 I didnt have much of an issue with going around him by 150. This was giving him the jump and a good 2 cars directly in front of me. I did have TC on, when shifting it would step in and take some power away. Of course my corvette is substatialy lighter than a camaro. The mustang is a very VERY impressive car.

My mods- z06 exhaust and vararam. 415 or so rwhp.

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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by imlooking

how the HELL could Ford design an engine with 5 liters make as much power as a 6.3 !?!?! HAHA !!!!
Hell, if GM had the tech in the LS heads that Ford does it might be different, the truth is, the LS3 heads is nearly identical to the intake ports of the old big blocks from the 60s and early 70s rectangle ports. There are other changes that are new in the tech department of the LS3 heads, but not allot. Seems they took tips from aftermarket makers and got the intake velocity up for lower engine speeds.

Otherwise, the Ford is pushing nearly as hard as it can NA, i am waiting to see one push close to 500 RWHP like the LS3 can, the LS is holding back more while the 5.0 is near its limitation.

Still confused on why Ford has not make a 5.4 that was even nastier and just skip the whole 5.0 process.
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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 05:45 PM
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i doubt that 5.0 is "pushing it's limits" NA right now........
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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ZONES89RS
Hell, if GM had the tech in the LS heads that Ford does it might be different, the truth is, the LS3 heads is nearly identical to the intake ports of the old big blocks from the 60s and early 70s rectangle ports. There are other changes that are new in the tech department of the LS3 heads, but not allot. Seems they took tips from aftermarket makers and got the intake velocity up for lower engine speeds.

Otherwise, the Ford is pushing nearly as hard as it can NA, i am waiting to see one push close to 500 RWHP like the LS3 can, the LS is holding back more while the 5.0 is near its limitation.

Still confused on why Ford has not make a 5.4 that was even nastier and just skip the whole 5.0 process.
The 5.4L isn't as rev friendly as the new 5.0L. Plus its too large.
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 06:45 AM
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Not saying a stock 5.4, just a 5.4 or so with all the 5.0 goodies, either way, revving lower by a touch with more cubes will still usually make more TQ and HP when the combination is right.

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i doubt that 5.0 is "pushing it's limits" NA right now........
There is only so much that you can get out of 93 octane NA and 302 cubes is about 450 FWHP optimal with older technology, so the newer is only going to stretch a bit further, so till i see several, not just one or two pumping way over 400 RWHP all motor, they are running heads that are pretty much as bad *** as aftermarket can get im sure. I want to be proven wrong for sure, i look forward to the little lack of pushrod motor putting high NA numbers.
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 11:51 AM
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Why are people trying to compare ls1's to the 5.0? In no way shape or form does the ls1 compare. Only the ls3 can hang with it. Even Nissan is producing motors that can out perform an ls1.

The ls1is old and outdated. Get over it.
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 12:07 PM
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 01:02 PM
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 01:28 PM
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I haven't run the 5.0 but I did get to run a 2010-2011 cobra. It it ran strong. But I did beat him three out of three in my c5 Vette with full bolt-on's and a cam. I haven't installed the heads or fast yet but it put down 410 rwhp with the clutch slipping
I put a 1-1/2 cars on him everytime. From 0-30-60
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 02:01 PM
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I would certainly hope a lighter 400 RWHP car could pull one.
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by HTX
Why are people trying to compare ls1's to the 5.0? In no way shape or form does the ls1 compare. Only the ls3 can hang with it. Even Nissan is producing motors that can out perform an ls1.

The ls1is old and outdated. Get over it.
My 305 is old too, but it holds its own.
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Powerhouse
Either way, the motor itself is larger. So trying to use the displacement argument us stupid.
Wow!
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 02:23 PM
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I don't remember comparing the 5.0 to the LS1...LS1 is old news...

I specifically compared the 5.0 to the 6.3 and pointed out how the smaller engine was making the same power...

People are gonna start swapping 5.0's in there C6's !!!! LMFAO !!!!
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by imlooking
I don't remember comparing the 5.0 to the LS1...LS1 is old news...

I specifically compared the 5.0 to the 6.3 and pointed out how the smaller engine was making the same power...

People are gonna start swapping 5.0's in there C6's !!!! LMFAO !!!!
I wansnt referring to you. Earlier in this thread people were comparing ls1 v 5.0
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 03:49 PM
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Ahhh ok...the M6 3.73 GT is running consistent 12.7's...that crazy...

I'm not a "Ford Guy" or a "GM Guy" - I like all kinds of cars...

STi's, Vettes, WS6's, EVO's, Esartee Fours, Esartee 8's, Cobras and Lightnings...they're all badass to me...

I've been extremely fortunate to own some of the above mentioned cars...I have a "favorite", but it doesn't make me a "??????? Guy"

I like'em all
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 03:52 PM
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Christ, can people please take the mustang **** slobbering to a ford website?

Search out The Colonel. I remember reading about him pulling 9's in a stock trim f car, back in the late 90's.

1 cam w/ pushrods > dohc w/ no pushrods
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 04:02 PM
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^^^ he mad
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by imlooking
^^^ he mad
I am about as mad as you are funny.
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 04:10 PM
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I was pointing out that the cobra has how much more then the 5.0? 540hp to the crank? And I beat him in a ls1 cam and headers c5 with 400rwhp. Yes I know the Vette is lighter.
Did I miss something? Is the 5.0 faster then the new cobra?
And yes I like the new stang too I just saying
"I would certainly hope a lighter 400 RWHP car could pull one."
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by imlooking
Ahhh ok...the M6 3.73 GT is running consistent 12.7's...that crazy...
Dont know what is so crazy, do you know how ****** deep the 1st gear ratio is in the stangs? Ridiculous. A 4 to1 1sta gear ought to help anything get out there fast, especially with 3.73 gears.
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