Back to the original topic at hand, RCC's pager broke. He didn't get the message.

 

There is alot of bitche's in this thread, My question is where's all the titty shots?

JK Kidding guys LOL!

 

 

So who bought the Vette?? Whoever is it, needs to take it to the mile this weekend.

 

Not to dog callies but I've heard of and seen at least 10 dragon slayers that have so much journal taper that the crank can't turn freely in a good block until it's been turned .010 .010. Apparently qc has gone down hill a bit. Will it stop me fro
Ordering one? Nope. Still going to order one. Just make sure it's perfect before it goes in.

 

Ricky,

I'm not saying that can't be true but I have not ever seen or had that happen and we use 100's of Callies Compstars and Dragonslayers and Magnums etc.

Maybe we are doing something wrong ? ...or someone else is ? I think Callies reputation stands on its own which is why LMR is using them in the first place as do we.

Why turn a new crank .010? Are you saying that these cranks needed to be turned a full .010 to be right! Again maybe something else is going on?

We have had a few crazy Eagles and such where we had them cut an extra .001-.002 and that was already enough to get them nice usually.

We've never had a new Callies crank that had to be cut so far ever in 10 years or had those issues with a new Callies not spinning in a good block done right.

RC's deal is absolutely crazy horsepower and sometimes **** does happen at those power levels. You don't usually ever gain reliability by upping the horsepower unfortunately.

 

I have had to make a few trips around the Houston area in the near past where "cranks wouldn't spin" and the three middle caps were on backwards. Of course the cranks spun just fine after the caps were turned around.

Had several where the thrust was not set or the block was line honed wrong as well or had ARP studs thrown in with no line hone or the thrust cap was leaning from a ghetto machine shop job. All blamed the crank until I brought a dead stock OEM crank and it wouldnt spin either.

Of course they were blaming the cranks till I dropped by and fixed everything. Just giving some examples as I hate to see people badmouth a good company like Callies.

Keep in mind we have Callies, SCAT, Lunati, Eagle, Sonny Bryant, K1, RPM and a few other LSx cranks we have been playing with for about 10 years or longer counting my years at SAM.

 

1500hp is pretty crazy power. But I also don't know the details of his crank failure as I haven't seen it. I was just stating my experiences. Would love to see some pics of it if anyone took any?

 

Not trying to talk **** at all with this post but their camaro made 1800 so why would it be any different than this car unless it was indeed just a freak accident. I am a noob so enlighten me if my theory is wrong and they are completely different

 

Sorry I have had too many calls about this thread not to respond. First of all let me start by saying yes we will stand behind anything we sell if it is truly our fault. To answer everyone's questions... to my knowledge we have not "replaced" a crank in the last six months on a "material warranty". Maybe the engine builder did it because of their error and passed the blame on to us and that is ok too. We also totally support our engine builder customers too so maybe this was replaced as a favor to them to say Thank you for you continued business..... To respond to the "all cranks we send out need turned 10 under to spin in a block... well that is probably the funniest thing I have ever heard in a LONG TIME. Our inspection equipment here measures sizing, taper and out of roundness to the millionth (yes I said the millionth) so that statement whoever made it .... is total B.S.
If that were true how could we stay in business think about it and not to blow our own horn but why would guys like LME, LMR , Kurt Urban, H.K. , Lingenfelter, Texas Speed .... do I need to go on choose us first.
I welcome any questions you may have too... fire away

 

 

We order Callies cranks by the pallet and several pallets a year. I have NEVER seen that out of a Callies crank. I find that hard to believe.

 

What is the inspection process you use to measure journal sizes/roundness? What is the tolerance on that spec?
What hardness does the journal spec call out for?
Does Callies inspect every crank individually or just a % of batches?
Are inspection reports generated for each crank/serial number?
What is the heat treat/stress relieve process and is it documented?
Which ISO certification does Callies currently hold?
Where are these Crankshafts machined? USA or China
How often are inspection instruments calibrated? In house or third party?
Documentation on calibrated instruments?
Material specs documentation/review?

I have bought several Callies crankshafts and have never have one fail. Just curious as to what Callies processes consist of and how it's Quality Control department handles measuring/documentation of tolerances.

I would hope that the Chinese Callies products are inspected here in the USA...

 

Can we call you "Professor Nick" now? I like the test questions you have asked. My only question is, is it multiple choice or fill in the blanks....lol

 

LOL, I was thinking the same thing

 

This is getting good.

 

For real!!!^^^ haha I will say though bravo on the questions cause those are all viable variables that could effect peoples choices.. Would be good info

 

Of I'm right nick is in the metal bussiness.

 

These are very general questions that are answered on a daily basis in the engineering/manufacturing field. All questions I have asked are valid questions that are answered in the process of machined products... I have many more if I can get these first ones answered...

 

What is the inspection process you use to measure journal sizes/roundness? What is the tolerance on that spec?

Measured with an Air Snap Gauge
(LS mains = 2.5594 to 2.5588)
(2.000pin = 1.9995 to 1.9990)
(2.100pin = 2.0995 to 2.0990)

What hardness does the journal spec call out for?

ALL METALS ARE CERTIFIED
NITRIDE DEPTH = .006 MIN WITH ONLY .020 TOLERANCE
HRC = 60

Does Callies inspect every crank individually or just a % of batches?

EVERY CRANKSHAFT CALLIES AND COMPSTAR IS INSPECTED AT EVERY OPERATION
*Inspection sheets follow the crank, start to finish

Are inspection reports generated for each crank/serial number?

EVERY CRANKSHAFT CALLIES AND COMPSTAR IS INSPECTED AT EVERY OPERATION
*Inspection sheets follow the crank, start to finish


What is the heat treat/stress relieve process and is it documented?

HEAT TREATMENT = PERMA CASE DEEP NITRIDE
TOKENS ARE USED TO MEASURE AND TRACK CONSISTANT DEPTH

Which ISO certification does Callies currently hold?

ISO IS NO REQUIRED IN THE HIGH PERFORMANCE MARKET
HOWEVER WITH OUR SUPPLIER STATUS TO GM / FORD WE HOLD CERTIFICATION TO MAINTAIN SUPPLIER REQUIREMENTS

Where are these Crankshafts machined? USA or China

CALLIES BRANDED CRANKS (INCLUDING ULTRA RODS) = 100% USA
COMPSTAR MACHINED OFF SHORE, ENGINEERED / FINISHED / INSPECTED @ CALLIES IN FOSTORIA OH

How often are inspection instruments calibrated? In house or third party?

DEPENDS ON THE GIVEN EQUIPMENT
INTERNAL AND EXTERAL CALIBRATION /INSPECTION
3MONTHS
6 MONTHS
1 YEAR
DAILY OR BEFORE AND AFTER USE




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