the real reason why we are in Libya & Iraq?
06-10-2011, 11:04 PM
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Hmmm sounds like what the Roman's did and we all know how that went.
06-10-2011, 11:13 PM
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06-10-2011, 11:19 PM
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What it all comes down to is history always seems to repeat itself, the government will turn corrupt, people will always care just for themselves and nations will fall as others will rise. All you can do enjoy the ride and look out for your family.
06-11-2011, 01:01 AM
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Will? We crossed that bridge long ago. It's also not a question of "if" we fall, it's a question of when and the dominoes have already started to fall.
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06-11-2011, 01:17 AM
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Rules? What rules are we playing by exactly? You call me uneducated but it seems I'm the only one who looks into what the actual troops are saying about being deployed over there. I don't care if you find what I say to be disrespectful, that's your opinion and it doesn't change the truth.
Will? We crossed that bridge long ago.
Will? We crossed that bridge long ago.
06-11-2011, 02:41 AM
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Trust me I know. I am majoring in political science and know a good amount about our government, and being a former Marine as of last year for 4 years I saw and heard a lot of things I really could not believe up until that time. All I can say is, Americans need to wake up and see what really is going on around them.
) I disagree with what you're saying. our differing assertions of fact will collide and form some sort of time warp thing, which I believe will destroy this country. Not a series of invasions by gothic tribes or a mass sterilization due to the use of lead dinnerware.to everyone in general, if you don't like your country, then gtfo. nobody is asking you to stay here. tired of all this half baked theory crap and then being told that I'm stupid or ignorant for not agreeing. now somebody close this thread before they start forming a drum circle
06-11-2011, 05:59 AM
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I don't remember learning this in any of my Poly sci classes. you must go to UT lol. well, I guess as a fellow political science major(and therefore an expert on everything political ) I disagree with what you're saying. our differing assertions of fact will collide and form some sort of time warp thing, which I believe will destroy this country. Not a series of invasions by gothic tribes or a mass sterilization due to the use of lead dinnerware.
to everyone in general, if you don't like your country, then gtfo. nobody is asking you to stay here. tired of all this half baked theory crap and then being told that I'm stupid or ignorant for not agreeing. now somebody close this thread before they start forming a drum circle
) I disagree with what you're saying. our differing assertions of fact will collide and form some sort of time warp thing, which I believe will destroy this country. Not a series of invasions by gothic tribes or a mass sterilization due to the use of lead dinnerware.to everyone in general, if you don't like your country, then gtfo. nobody is asking you to stay here. tired of all this half baked theory crap and then being told that I'm stupid or ignorant for not agreeing. now somebody close this thread before they start forming a drum circle
06-11-2011, 10:22 AM
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Trust me I know. I am majoring in political science and know a good amount about our government, and being a former Marine as of last year for 4 years I saw and heard a lot of things I really could not believe up until that time. All I can say is, Americans need to wake up and see what really is going on around them.
...just sayin'
Rah
06-11-2011, 02:45 PM
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Have you ever been out of this country and seen the world first hand? And I never said I was a expert, just stated my "major". This debate could go on forever, at the end of the day your gonna believe what you believe in and I will believe what I believe in so might as well leave it at that
however, im curious as to what you learned in your extensive travels abroad that you found so profound that it made you see your country the way you do. not knocking you or anything, but given new evidence im always willing to change my opinion if its reasonable. to answer your question, ive only been to mexico and canada so im hardly what you might consider cosmopolitan. but for what its worth, i know several soldiers and alot of foreign people that dont seem to have any problem with what we're doing, including an iraqi and a couple persians.
06-12-2011, 01:01 PM
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It's because most of the people in the United States are still asleep. As long as it doesn't interfere with their daily lives then it doesn't exist. They trust what the government and media tell them to be 100% truth and anyone who speaks against it to be crazy. They have the most powerful tool known to mankind (the internet) and don't care to use it to find the truth.
They'll all wake up to the reality we're in eventually. Some are connecting the dots a little faster than others while some can see the connections but they're still in denial.
Maybe these videos will help them open their eyes a little bit. If they can manage to watch the videos in their entirety and RESEARCH the information found within, they won't like what they find but it'll be the truth.
This is just the tip of the iceberg, there's so much more out there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UGXVic15ho
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ2VpfUqRoo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NUDWQ0U7N8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OkITedQrek
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEuJimaumW4
They'll all wake up to the reality we're in eventually. Some are connecting the dots a little faster than others while some can see the connections but they're still in denial.
Maybe these videos will help them open their eyes a little bit. If they can manage to watch the videos in their entirety and RESEARCH the information found within, they won't like what they find but it'll be the truth.
This is just the tip of the iceberg, there's so much more out there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UGXVic15ho
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ2VpfUqRoo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NUDWQ0U7N8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OkITedQrek
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEuJimaumW4
06-13-2011, 01:55 AM
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Well if the towers were demolished, how did they get all of the explosives in there without anyone noticing? Someone would would've noticed it and either reported it or did nothing. Obviously didn't get reported, so you're suggesting that the people in the building were all complicit with their own deaths and those of everyone else that day. So then the bombs must've been hidden during construction, which means this was Nixons super sneaky plot, not Bush's 
And you would think that if this were a gov inside job, someone would have blown the whistle by now. He'd be an American hero for discovering the "truth". Furthermore, you'd think Julian Assange would have published a document related to it, but even he thinks the truthers are stupid. But wait, people are claiming he's a cis asset now, because he doesn't agree with them. As if the majority of Americans believed this crap to the extent the cia needed him anyway.
Also, I don't believe the cia does too many "hits". Their clandestine service is not what most people think it is. Nowhere near jack bauer or agent xxx ****. They're 99% analysts fighting the war on terror from a pc. They do have some spooks running around, but again they usually collect intelligence. Jsoc is the "assassination brigade" I believe ...
Lastly, your first vid wouldn't play for me, but judging from the title, its about osama being linked to the cia. I thought this was common knowledge. he and most of the people were fighting right now are linked to the muja hideen(sp), who were trained and funded by the cia back in the 80s. That might not be what the vid was about, but I guess the nsa didn't want me to see the "truth" via a half assed YouTube video made in some weirdo's mom's basement.
And you would think that if this were a gov inside job, someone would have blown the whistle by now. He'd be an American hero for discovering the "truth". Furthermore, you'd think Julian Assange would have published a document related to it, but even he thinks the truthers are stupid. But wait, people are claiming he's a cis asset now, because he doesn't agree with them. As if the majority of Americans believed this crap to the extent the cia needed him anyway.
Also, I don't believe the cia does too many "hits". Their clandestine service is not what most people think it is. Nowhere near jack bauer or agent xxx ****. They're 99% analysts fighting the war on terror from a pc. They do have some spooks running around, but again they usually collect intelligence. Jsoc is the "assassination brigade" I believe ...
Lastly, your first vid wouldn't play for me, but judging from the title, its about osama being linked to the cia. I thought this was common knowledge. he and most of the people were fighting right now are linked to the muja hideen(sp), who were trained and funded by the cia back in the 80s. That might not be what the vid was about, but I guess the nsa didn't want me to see the "truth" via a half assed YouTube video made in some weirdo's mom's basement.
06-13-2011, 08:17 AM
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Well if the towers were demolished, how did they get all of the explosives in there without anyone noticing? Someone would would've noticed it and either reported it or did nothing. Obviously didn't get reported, so you're suggesting that the people in the building were all complicit with their own deaths and those of everyone else that day. So then the bombs must've been hidden during construction, which means this was Nixons super sneaky plot, not Bush's
but I guess the nsa didn't want me to see the "truth" via a half assed YouTube video made in some weirdo's mom's basement.
06-13-2011, 08:44 AM
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Good retort.
Following that logic, any information outside of your own experience is "media."
The key difference being the media on the TV is owned by someone with an agenda, the internet is not. I'll admit there's a lot of disinformation and false information out there but that's where you use your brain to sort through it all.
Rather than coming back with witty replies, provide some substance to back up your point.
Following that logic, any information outside of your own experience is "media."
The key difference being the media on the TV is owned by someone with an agenda, the internet is not. I'll admit there's a lot of disinformation and false information out there but that's where you use your brain to sort through it all.
Rather than coming back with witty replies, provide some substance to back up your point.
06-13-2011, 09:16 AM
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Long story short... I have met the enemy. I have eaten meals with them. Slept in close quarters with them. Talked with them. And of course tracked them down and captured them.
Believe me when I say they want you dead. Your parents, children, neighboors... all non Muslims. The only two things stopping them are the Atlantic ocean and coalition forces.
But as far as you know I am just another ******* on the internet...
Believe me when I say they want you dead. Your parents, children, neighboors... all non Muslims. The only two things stopping them are the Atlantic ocean and coalition forces.
But as far as you know I am just another ******* on the internet...
06-13-2011, 09:38 AM
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Long story short... I have met the enemy. I have eaten meals with them. Slept in close quarters with them. Talked with them. And of course tracked them down and captured them.
Believe me when I say they want you dead. Your parents, children, neighboors... all non Muslims. The only two things stopping them are the Atlantic ocean and coalition forces.
But as far as you know I am just another ******* on the internet...
Believe me when I say they want you dead. Your parents, children, neighboors... all non Muslims. The only two things stopping them are the Atlantic ocean and coalition forces.
But as far as you know I am just another ******* on the internet...
Let's just agree to disagree. You'll come around eventually like everyone else, you just need more convincing but never bother to look for it.
Long story short... humans are a cancer, no matter their nationality.