Bad Crash at LMP
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Hey fellows,let's all be glad Chris didn't get hurt.Let's also be reminded that we all go hauling *** down tracks in excess of 100mph+ and as we all know,**** happens. Instead of pointing fingers and assessing blame,this wreck should make everyone think about installing a cage and harnesses,because they work.Most street cars I see have lots of go parts,but no safety parts. Learn from this. Larry/Badman
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Retarded? All else equal, equal cars, you are saying a 600 rwhp centri beats a 600 rwhp PD blower setup from a roll?
Please explain. Your logic defies physics. We aren't talking all-out max builds here, it was a statement comparing equal HP setups. Of course the centri dominates all-out racecar builds, except when the turbo(s) arrive.
Please explain. Your logic defies physics. We aren't talking all-out max builds here, it was a statement comparing equal HP setups. Of course the centri dominates all-out racecar builds, except when the turbo(s) arrive.
Having built,driven,raced and tuned many setups. I can say that a centri car pulls harder in the upper rpms. Where the roots,tvs,screw blowers seem to run out of steam.
Take two identical 500 RWHP 2010 Camaros one with a maggie and one with a Procharger. The Procharger car wins!!
Now if you want to talk seat of the pants feeling below 4K rpms..Then the postive displacement blowers shine!
But who races below 4k?
I am glad Chris didn't get hurt, don't think that I am lost on that perspective. I was actually behind him on Genoa Red Bluff Friday night at about 10, but I was in my 18 wheeler and was having a hard time keeping up with him lol. Its a shame that such a beautiful car like that got destroyed. Thankfully he's ok
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From: Katy/Cypress/Pearland, Texas Bitches!
Regardless of what shop Chris H. went to...
Regardless of what his set-up was...
Regardless of if he heeded warnings or not...
Chris is a SUPER-UBER polite, respectful guy. I hope he recovers quickly and with no major injury.
Lets not bash Chris. **** happens. He met his threshold and now has to deal with the loss. I hope he is able to put this past him and remain a part of the scene.
It's pretty obvious, in time, the truth will come out about this whole accident. Tune, set-up or a combination of reasons "WHY".
Chris is the victim here, we should refrain from attacking him. I'm VERY glad he had the roll-cage installed, he was thinking very smart.
Chris H. I hope for a swift recovery.
Regardless of what his set-up was...
Regardless of if he heeded warnings or not...
Chris is a SUPER-UBER polite, respectful guy. I hope he recovers quickly and with no major injury.
Lets not bash Chris. **** happens. He met his threshold and now has to deal with the loss. I hope he is able to put this past him and remain a part of the scene.
It's pretty obvious, in time, the truth will come out about this whole accident. Tune, set-up or a combination of reasons "WHY".
Chris is the victim here, we should refrain from attacking him. I'm VERY glad he had the roll-cage installed, he was thinking very smart.
Chris H. I hope for a swift recovery.
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Having built,driven,raced and tuned many setups. I can say that a centri car pulls harder in the upper rpms. Where the roots,tvs,screw blowers seem to run out of steam.
Take two identical 500 RWHP 2010 Camaros one with a maggie and one with a Procharger. The Procharger car wins!!
Take two identical 500 RWHP 2010 Camaros one with a maggie and one with a Procharger. The Procharger car wins!!
Both Camaros making 500 rwhp, heat soaked, no way. And your CTS-V with its 630 rwhp wouldn't run quicker down the track if that thing had a 630 rwhp Procharger instead of the TVS. None of these examples are maxing out any Whipple/TVS/KB - they aren't "running out of steam" at 600 rwhp. Beyond 700 rwhp, sure. Don't forget that I have a centri that pushes nearly 700 rwhp too, I know how they feel.
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From: Wish I was in a boat fishing...
Are you saying your profit margin on the Procharger is better? LOL
Both Camaros making 500 rwhp, heat soaked, no way. And your CTS-V with its 630 rwhp wouldn't run quicker down the track if that thing had a 630 rwhp Procharger instead of the TVS. None of these examples are maxing out any Whipple/TVS/KB - they aren't "running out of steam" at 600 rwhp. Beyond 700 rwhp, sure. Don't forget that I have a centri that pushes nearly 700 rwhp too, I know how they feel.
Both Camaros making 500 rwhp, heat soaked, no way. And your CTS-V with its 630 rwhp wouldn't run quicker down the track if that thing had a 630 rwhp Procharger instead of the TVS. None of these examples are maxing out any Whipple/TVS/KB - they aren't "running out of steam" at 600 rwhp. Beyond 700 rwhp, sure. Don't forget that I have a centri that pushes nearly 700 rwhp too, I know how they feel.
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From: Conroe, Tx
i knew it was only a matter of time till one of those A.R.D. hack jobs went into the wall glad the owner was ok but the guy from h-town camaros is a dumb *** me and rooster tried to warn these guys about A.R.D. and we got our posts deleted and banned from their web site so technically its partially his fault because he did everything in has power to cover up all the evidence we provided to them showing A.R.D. was a POS shop so no one would get screwed, well i guess it only took someone loosing their ******* car before the tards over on h town camaros will listen. WELL ARE YOU LISTENING NOW? A.R.D. SUCKS and always has.
Randy you know better... they need our money... we don't need theirs, the same as any business. I'm sure we'll get a chance to discuss later.
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From: Conroe, Tx
Hey fellows,let's all be glad Chris didn't get hurt.Let's also be reminded that we all go hauling *** down tracks in excess of 100mph+ and as we all know,**** happens. Instead of pointing fingers and assessing blame,this wreck should make everyone think about installing a cage and harnesses,because they work.Most street cars I see have lots of go parts,but no safety parts. Learn from this. Larry/Badman
I am glad Chris didn't get hurt, don't think that I am lost on that perspective. I was actually behind him on Genoa Red Bluff Friday night at about 10, but I was in my 18 wheeler and was having a hard time keeping up with him lol. Its a shame that such a beautiful car like that got destroyed. Thankfully he's ok
Regardless of what shop Chris H. went to...
Regardless of what his set-up was...
Regardless of if he heeded warnings or not...
Chris is a SUPER-UBER polite, respectful guy. I hope he recovers quickly and with no major injury.
Lets not bash Chris. **** happens. He met his threshold and now has to deal with the loss. I hope he is able to put this past him and remain a part of the scene.
It's pretty obvious, in time, the truth will come out about this whole accident. Tune, set-up or a combination of reasons "WHY".
Chris is the victim here, we should refrain from attacking him. I'm VERY glad he had the roll-cage installed, he was thinking very smart.
Chris H. I hope for a swift recovery.
Regardless of what his set-up was...
Regardless of if he heeded warnings or not...
Chris is a SUPER-UBER polite, respectful guy. I hope he recovers quickly and with no major injury.
Lets not bash Chris. **** happens. He met his threshold and now has to deal with the loss. I hope he is able to put this past him and remain a part of the scene.
It's pretty obvious, in time, the truth will come out about this whole accident. Tune, set-up or a combination of reasons "WHY".
Chris is the victim here, we should refrain from attacking him. I'm VERY glad he had the roll-cage installed, he was thinking very smart.
Chris H. I hope for a swift recovery.
I've read Chris' posts, and he seems like a great guy, and that's besides the fact that several people whose opinions I respect have vouched for him. Thats great, I don't have anything bad to say about him. I feel really bad about his car. I feel that it could have been avoided, that's all.
I'll tell you what, let's make a wager on how long it is before another one of your cars has an ARD related issue. You interested? I feel my odds are real good
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From: Conroe, Tx
