"Pass this bill"
I left engineering a couple of years ago. Too much BS, too much headache/liability... I went back to school and now I'm an ASE-certified and factory certified dealer technician for a brand who shall remain nameless.

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No sense bitching and arguing about it. We may think we are correct, and everyone else is wrong, but that doesn't win elections. Instead of wasting time arguing about things beyond your control, go use this time to do something productive and figure out how to improve your own situation or income. Be in control of your own destiny, don't sit around and hope that politicians will look after your best interests. Once in office, they only care about themselves and being re-elected.
Is this really what the world is going to have to come to before people get just what the hell is going on?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_qgVn-Op7Q
And you do have a tool to get our country back its called VOTING.
I still think the presidential election should be a popular vote, although Bush wouldn't have been elected in 2000 and Al Gore wouldn't have gotten fat and grown a beard, but we still would've had the hanging chad fiasco if the popular vote were close enough
its worth noting that the electoral college is based off population, since the electoral votes are based on the number of state representatives. the people vote, majority rules and the candidate scores an electoral vote. once the votes are tallied, winner takes all. majority rules. i dont really have a problem with that
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When one person suffers from delusions, it's considered an illness. When many people suffer from delusions, it's called religion.
Separation of church and state is marginal at best because people don't separate politics from their religion, or their leaders. Unless a candidate is Christian, people won't elect him/her because the voting population is mostly Christian of some variety. That's probably why Romney has a minimal chance. Mormonism? No way. This country won't get past it. I know people love to cling to the Obama is Muslim thing, but fact is... he was raised largely Christian and it's been researched to death that the guy attended the same church for nearly 20 years. I'm not one to defend Owe-bama at all, but that argument is old hat. Even if he is Muslim, he appeases the masses by playing up his Christian upbringing.
When one person suffers from delusions, it's considered an illness. When many people suffer from delusions, it's called religion.
Separation of church and state is marginal at best because people don't separate politics from their religion, or their leaders. Unless a candidate is Christian, people won't elect him/her because the voting population is mostly Christian of some variety. That's probably why Romney has a minimal chance. Mormonism? No way. This country won't get past it. I know people love to cling to the Obama is Muslim thing, but fact is... he was raised largely Christian and it's been researched to death that the guy attended the same church for nearly 20 years. I'm not one to defend Owe-bama at all, but that argument is old hat. Even if he is Muslim, he appeases the masses by playing up his Christian upbringing.
Last edited by Slow LSX; Sep 13, 2011 at 01:07 PM.






