I didn't say anything about the pastor. Only that it is a Christian church the President attended for many years.

 

this

no, he's christian

the first amendment and a candidate publicizing his/her religious beliefs are not mutually exclusive. the text states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" this does not mean political leaders cannot or should not exercise their faith publicly. (that rule is in the bible, not the constitution) the amendment simply means that the federal government will not support, fund, or endorse any religion. you could take it a step further and say it means no national religion ( a response to the church of england, no doubt). if you read up on the framers, many of them were religious themselves and publicly said religious things.

church of christ actually

i would say jeremiah wright was more left wing extremist than right wing extremist.

sad but true. too many godless bastards running around these days. its one thing to say you have no active relationship with some sort of religion ( such as me), but its another to completely reject religion altogether. its not natural and i usually consider this type of person a step above being mentally ill lol

 

I promised myself I would not get involved in these meaningless conversations anymore . I got sucked in ...again! DAMN

Im gonna go play with my car now...

 

Ahem...







Yes they do try to force it upon people. This coming from an athiest who sees 0 problems with religon (except current muslims...the majority anyways oh and omish) as 99% of the time it promotes positive meaning and good cause.

Why are athiests so easily offended by religon anyways? I dont get mad at Star Wars or Superman or Alien movies or believers. It has 0 impact on my life. But athiests seem to want to sway believers or belittle them. I dont get it.

 

Ya'll are getting way off topic!!! This threads about getting loaded watching an Obama speech!!

 

Regardless of the denomination they tout, from what I've read of the man its an extreme Marxist sect with many roots to the Muslim faith.
Yes you're right LEFT, not sure why I typed right. At any rate see reply above for my stance on his denomination that he claims.

 

It's just discussion. Don't take it so seriously and it won't get the best of you.

Ha! I won't go into my beliefs, but those... are awesome.

That's an opinion, and you educated yourself to create it. A rare thing among the voting populus today. The church where that pastor preached to Obama said "Church of Christ" on the sign. He preached beneath a Christian cross, and that's all the people needed to see because even if the pastor was a nut-job, Obama's church was proof enough that he was Christian. Most voters don't look more than surface-deep at presidential candidates, Obama in particular. The media and conservative camps over-inflated Obama's connection to the preacher, Obama's camp downplayed it skillfully, and his supporters dismissed the whole scandal as right-wing media hype. Remember, at the time, people were more infatuated with electing a "black" man (even if he is only half-black)... he would have had to be a devout Muslim or followed some African Swahili religion before it affected the public consciousness. He was the right guy in the right place with the right demographic pushing him to the top, unfortunately for the rest of us who knew what he'd bring to the table (or rather, what he lacks).

 

I suppose I can concede to it being an opinion, but a very informed opinion, in my opinion

 

See thats what I don't agree with, I have met many many atheists and none of them scared me at all into thinking they were horrible people or capable of anything insane since they don't believe in a god, its called ethics. The facts are more and more religions are being debunked as we speak by archaeologists. There have had many break threw finds in Israel that have shown the bible to have some false pretences. That's the thing, religion should never be brought up and to believe any human is not capable of being good because of there religious background is just wrong. I mean YOUR God did say never judge anyone. And almost every person of faith that really shoeboats it that I meet seems to have a lot of issues and are always blaming THERE mistakes on there faith. It's not like I go out and do crack because God told me not to its because I was taught by my parents that doing those types of drug is just dumb and does nothing good to my body or others around me. This quote by Marcus Aurelius cannot be more true, enjoy.

Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones. I am not afraid. -Marcus Aurelius

People seem to think that by praising a God every Sunday is a ticket to the good life when you die this is a very good video on a man who is very smart and very educated in religions. It's kinda long but just listen to what he has to say and he makes some very good points.

http://youtu.be/sD0B-X9LJjs

 

I stand corrected I have been to 30+ states and have never seen any of those types of signs but it does not surprise me though seems every group of faith has there extremist. And I have ZERO issue with someone who believes in a certain faith as they have that right, but to shove what you believe down someone else's throat unwillingly is just wrong.

 

Im athiest..........swear to god I am.....

Man this thread went sideways bigtime.