HTX

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Ill see your raise and go all in with some Tosh.o viewer video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVJRq...e_gdata_player

Jake_the_Snake

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anyways, ron paul is good on just about everything except his foreign policy stances, which happen to be a deciding factor for me. now gingrich, he's the man!

Sales2@Texas-speed

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That's not ethics, it's law. Google "COBRA law", which I believe is what this is covered under

Jake_the_Snake

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i believe cobra is just a continuation of coverage if someone were to be laid off. not for generic uninsured people

rabiddog

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Can't pay? Don't have insurance, or Medicare? You still have a legal right to get hospital care for an emergency or childbirth. It's against the law to turn you away because you can't pay.
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This does not mean the care is free. You may have to agree to pay later.


That is not cobra

this is

The Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA) gives workers and their families who lose their health benefits the right to choose to continue group health benefits provided by their group health plan for limited periods of time under certain circumstances such as voluntary or involuntary job loss, reduction in the hours worked, transition between jobs, death, divorce, and other life events. Qualified individuals may be required to pay the entire premium for coverage up to 102 percent of the cost to the plan.

COBRA generally requires that group health plans sponsored by employers with 20 or more employees in the prior year offer employees and their families the opportunity for a temporary extension of health coverage (called continuation coverage) in certain instances where coverage under the plan would otherwise end.

COBRA outlines how employees and family members may elect continuation coverage. It also requires employers and plans to provide notice.

3.8redbird

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The way it should be you mean?

T-Top

I like those comparisons. I'm a healthcare administration major here in Texas btw. So this should be quite interesting...

SnIpEz

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Lol @ all of you guys getting SOO ******* mad over something like this haha. I'm 19, the **** do I know about any of this, seriously? I said the first few posts just to push a few buttons and get some discussion about this since no one else knows what's going on. I was never a supporter of RP or any candidate for that matter, I was planning to wait until after the primaries to decide who looks best, since my vote honestly won't matter anyways.

But jesus christ, some of you guys getting butt hurt like 12 year old girls who didn't get an invitation to the middle school all girls slumber party, ******* lol...

I would like to hear both sides of this though, because, as I said, no one I know can explain any of that to me and I wasn't sure exactly what to think about that. Now...


But what about the families who can't afford medical insurance though because $300 extra a month is just enough to make the bills too much? Then what? Someone wanna explain that in clear words? (serious question)

FWIW, I'm a Moderate, but I've lately decided that's basically the little bitch's way of not manning up and choosing a side. Someone sway me in another direction, I honestly cannot choose which I lean towards more

Greed4Speed

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Ok since you're 19, are you willing to give up cars, being able to have things like cable, not going out much on weekends, not eating out, basically living on a very tight budget to pay for school and books on your own while you work full time and go to school full or part time as you can afford it just so you can get a degree and make a decent living only to give up half your income so you can pay the medical bills for people that didn't make the same sacrifices?

I don't know about you, but I for one didn't make the sacrifices I needed to for an education so I could pay for other people's problems that didn't. Sounds kind of heatless, but we are guaranteed the Pursuit of happiness, not happiness.

Socialism is great until they want your money, and government helathcare is nothing short of socialism. If you EVER plan on making a good salary in the future, now is the time your politics need to start reflecting what you wish to become not where you are now.

Sales2@Texas-speed

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Read deeper. COBRA is also what says if someone NEEDS medical attention, they cannot be refused it because of their inability to pay. This is some of the root cause of ambulance abuse and people taking "free" rides in the ambulance to the hospital. The problem is, most cities/districts do not have it defined as to what does and does not need immediate emergency medical attention.

Ever walk into your university's hospital or the county hospital? Then walk into the private hospital. They may give just as good of care, but the country or university hospital is ALWAYS busier because they cannot refuse them. It gets worse in the real cold months of the year. If the hospital is state/federally funded, they cannot refuse service or care. Now they will triage the people and they might wait in the lobby for hours on end until all the real emergencies are taken care of, but they can and will be seen.

The private owned/run hospital and ER cannot refuse care for true emergencies. But they do have a much easier time sending people with BS problems across the street to the other ER.

rabiddog

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First I haven't got angry over anything and really haven't seen anyone else getting pissed about anything.


Might just have to take a few cuts around the house. Health insurance or the 600 cable channels and high speed internet and renewing my x-box live account.

You might ask... What am I going to do with all my free time since I dont have a job anymore and cant watch TV or play xbox all day??

Maybe go out and get another job since there are tons of them out there at the moment.

I really dont understand how unemployment is so bad. If I got laid off I would be glad to move somewhere else and get a job doing something different.

Unions, big government, politics, and laziness is what has got us to where we are.

again I am not mad or pissed just a few little things. Also love the bold can't above.

3.8redbird

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During the colder months in South Texas, yes I am talking about the few weeks it is below 50*, a hoard of homeless 'claim' to have an emergency just to have somewhere to stay. When the morning arrives they all just get up and leave. A cold, unless you are a geriatric, child, or immune compromised, is NOT an emergency room visit.

SnIpEz

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I honestly wasn't directing that post towards you, I pretty much skipped any post I saw quoting me. And yes, people were getting angry though lol.

I should have detailed my question a bit more. I didn't mean for unemployed people, I meant for families who have an income, maybe lower middle class, and simply cannot afford to spare the extra 300 a month. And what if the family isn't exactly spending money frivolously, no credit cards except maybe to establish credit, basic cable, fully paid off car or two, home owners with a mortgage bills, and maybe their business is struggling or their job isn't giving enough hours. What then is really more what I meant. Disregard the lazy *** people who make excuses


And Shannon, your point was dead on, very very very true. I myself am working more than double full time over time (aka 2 jobs and about to start a third one soon) and in January I will be adding full time school to that as well. I personally woke up at 8 AM yesterday and did not sleep until 2:50 AM last night after making the thread and woke up 1.5 hours later to go to work for another 9 hours. Heading back there right now to pick up my pay check actually. I personally don't want any of my hard work and sacrifice to go towards some lazy *** mother ****** who mooches off the world and doesn't take responsibility. **** that **** actually.

speedtigger

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This is really the bottom line. We are all paying for those who don't pay. Some don't pay because they can't, others don't pay because they think they are smart to get free care and game the system. This is why I support mandatory healthcare coverage where everyone has to pay. I pay for these people now in my inflated healthcare costs. It is time that this dead weight pays their share. Everybody needs to pay.

3.8redbird

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Those who do not pay now will continue to not pay in the future on a "mandatory" pay plan.

Health care is a privilege not a right.

Greed4Speed

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Sounds like you just chose a side, but unfortunately you can't trust politicians on either side.

SnIpEz

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So what is the Democrats viewpoint on the issue? They just like the bums leeching off of them or what? Or do they want to help the bums make it easier to be bums?

I'm sure that paragraph sounds pretty retarded, but I wasn't sure how to phrase it

speedtigger

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How is that working out for those who don't pay their taxes?

Greed4Speed

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Seeing how the Dems are socialist..... Honestly I think they're buying low income votes with tax dollars.

speedtigger

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We did so well to not start playing cowboys and indians until now.

Here comes the lock.