***Texas Mile Update!!***
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Ok I agree on the "wheel standing" launches are not needed because A. they will never happern, don't have right surface prep. B. mile cars are setup to make mph count. Therefore, every foot counts. Otherwise it would be the 3/4 mile or 1.112 mile or whatever works for my cars setup mile. Race from point A to B. that's it. Physics plays a role of course but that why the cars that are making big power roll into, then mash the hell out of the hole. Tommy Bahn has done numerous times, ART viper does peeling out. Hell pour ol'Mullet has done it multiple times.
Teching In
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Teching In
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Bill Warner isn't a hard launch but spinning hard?
BTW Tony, I love you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBtwR...eature=related
BTW Tony, I love you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBtwR...eature=related
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Mile racing is NOT drag racing. Every foot does NOT count. Hard launches do NOT matter. Both of these cars are over 200 mph at the half mile mark. This is just a sheer fight against wind resistance, overcoming drag with raw horsepower. It has nothing to do with launching or quickness. What matters is how the car performs during the second half of the mile.
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Ok I agree on the "wheel standing" launches are not needed because A. they will never happern, don't have right surface prep. B. mile cars are setup to make mph count. Therefore, every foot counts. Otherwise it would be the 3/4 mile or 1.112 mile or whatever works for my cars setup mile. Race from point A to B. that's it. Physics plays a role of course but that why the cars that are making big power roll into, then mash the hell out of the hole. Tommy Bahn has done numerous times, ART viper does peeling out. Hell pour ol'Mullet has done it multiple times.
Teching In
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I'm looking for understanding and not just trying to be a dick. But it would seem if they launched harder and used an auto they would go a few mph faster at the mile which could be the record. LMR seemed to just roll out for a bit and the driver was shifting slow which you end up losing mph when you're going fast due to wind resistance.
Not sure about the GT but they look like R6s as well.
The blow outs from last year and the prior year were DR that were not rated for that high of speeds and neither are the R6s but they are rated higher.
Please pick up a physics book at the nearest used student bookstore.
If you are concerned with the exact length of a track, then yes I'll agree that every foot counts in order to make it an exact length track.
If you are concerned with your speed results at the end of the track length, then you'll probably find that your finishing mph doesn't vary much if you decide to wheelstand at the starting line, or roll into the throttle from the starting line. Therefore, the "every foot" doesn't count when we are discussing acceleration or velocity potential.
Why? Because of this equation.
Pay attention to the V squared part of that equation. That shows that the Force (F) of drag generated has an exponential relationship to velocity (v). The faster you go, it takes even more power to overcome that Force, to achieve the same rate of acceleration.
What does this mean? It means if you are accelerating as quickly as you can, as you approach the end of the mile, those feet have FAR more importance than the feet located near the starting line. Therefore, the start style you use doesn't affect much in terms of final mph.
If you are concerned with the exact length of a track, then yes I'll agree that every foot counts in order to make it an exact length track.
If you are concerned with your speed results at the end of the track length, then you'll probably find that your finishing mph doesn't vary much if you decide to wheelstand at the starting line, or roll into the throttle from the starting line. Therefore, the "every foot" doesn't count when we are discussing acceleration or velocity potential.
Why? Because of this equation.
Pay attention to the V squared part of that equation. That shows that the Force (F) of drag generated has an exponential relationship to velocity (v). The faster you go, it takes even more power to overcome that Force, to achieve the same rate of acceleration.
What does this mean? It means if you are accelerating as quickly as you can, as you approach the end of the mile, those feet have FAR more importance than the feet located near the starting line. Therefore, the start style you use doesn't affect much in terms of final mph.
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Please pick up a physics book at the nearest used student bookstore.
If you are concerned with the exact length of a track, then yes I'll agree that every foot counts in order to make it an exact length track.
If you are concerned with your speed results at the end of the track length, then you'll probably find that your finishing mph doesn't vary much if you decide to wheelstand at the starting line, or roll into the throttle from the starting line. Therefore, the "every foot" doesn't count when we are discussing acceleration or velocity potential.
Why? Because of this equation.
Pay attention to the V squared part of that equation. That shows that the Force (F) of drag generated has an exponential relationship to velocity (v). The faster you go, it takes even more power to overcome that Force, to achieve the same rate of acceleration.
What does this mean? It means if you are accelerating as quickly as you can, as you approach the end of the mile, those feet have FAR more importance than the feet located near the starting line. Therefore, the start style you use doesn't affect much in terms of final mph.
If you are concerned with the exact length of a track, then yes I'll agree that every foot counts in order to make it an exact length track.
If you are concerned with your speed results at the end of the track length, then you'll probably find that your finishing mph doesn't vary much if you decide to wheelstand at the starting line, or roll into the throttle from the starting line. Therefore, the "every foot" doesn't count when we are discussing acceleration or velocity potential.
Why? Because of this equation.
Pay attention to the V squared part of that equation. That shows that the Force (F) of drag generated has an exponential relationship to velocity (v). The faster you go, it takes even more power to overcome that Force, to achieve the same rate of acceleration.
What does this mean? It means if you are accelerating as quickly as you can, as you approach the end of the mile, those feet have FAR more importance than the feet located near the starting line. Therefore, the start style you use doesn't affect much in terms of final mph.
This is what I came up with...
Teching In
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Tires have pretty much been narrowed down to Roadracing tires, namely the Hoosier R6. They only off so many sizes and I believe LMR is running the biggest they can, a 355 IIRC.
Not sure about the GT but they look like R6s as well.
The blow outs from last year and the prior year were DR that were not rated for that high of speeds and neither are the R6s but they are rated higher.
Not sure about the GT but they look like R6s as well.
The blow outs from last year and the prior year were DR that were not rated for that high of speeds and neither are the R6s but they are rated higher.
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If debating the proper rounding of decimal points was gay, then this splitting of hairs on exact proper mile launch nuances with physics formulas being dropped has just made the rounding debate hyper-heterosexual. I knew that behind the criticisms of suspected homosexuality there was the strong urge to instead make things gayer somehow.
I'm pretty sure all these guys going over 200 mph in the mile know what they're doing better than those of us that don't however it is that they decide to launch.
LMR certainly knows WTF they're doing! That steering wheel with one hand holding on still gets me.
I'm pretty sure all these guys going over 200 mph in the mile know what they're doing better than those of us that don't however it is that they decide to launch.
LMR certainly knows WTF they're doing! That steering wheel with one hand holding on still gets me.
Are these tires ideal or simply the best we have so far?