Conceal Carry Weapon
05-17-2012, 09:21 AM
#61
To each it's own. I just figured if you're gonna carry a pistol then you need to practice. Which if you practice you will use a lot of ammo. If you're ballin' outta controll and can afford to spend that kind of money on .380 then go for it. I'm just saying 9mm is cheaper and with the new 9mm pocket pistols, its sonething worth looking into.
05-17-2012, 10:22 AM
#62
To each it's own. I just figured if you're gonna carry a pistol then you need to practice. Which if you practice you will use a lot of ammo. If you're ballin' outta controll and can afford to spend that kind of money on .380 then go for it. I'm just saying 9mm is cheaper and with the new 9mm pocket pistols, its sonething worth looking into.
05-17-2012, 10:37 AM
#63
Why the CHL hate in here? I've been in a couple of situations where im about 90% sure I got a little extra courtesy from law enforcement. A few of my buddies have had similar experiences.
And its all fine and good that you can carry in your vehicle without a CHL, but attackers don't always wait for you to get back to, and inside your vehicle before they do their thing.
And yeah, there is zero tolerance for someone with a CHL and alcohol. And that's a good thing. If you're not an idiot, you are responsible enough to not bring a firearm around if you are going to be drinking.
And its all fine and good that you can carry in your vehicle without a CHL, but attackers don't always wait for you to get back to, and inside your vehicle before they do their thing.
And yeah, there is zero tolerance for someone with a CHL and alcohol. And that's a good thing. If you're not an idiot, you are responsible enough to not bring a firearm around if you are going to be drinking.
05-17-2012, 10:56 AM
#64
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Or start reloading instead of buying a second pistol.[/QUOTE]
Ive actually considered reloading. I do a little IPSC shooting and between practicing and doing matches, ammo goes by so fast. I shoot a XD tactical .45 and the only reason i can afford it is because I have a friend that reloads for me. I take him brass and he loads me 300-500 rounds at a time for .20 cents a round.
But I'm a firm believer that if you take on the resposibily to CCW you must practice a lot. The last thing you want to do is kill some innocent person because you suck at shotting your carry gun.
My wife carries a S&W bodyguard .380 everyday. Thats the pistol she wanted because it was the easiest to carry and shoot for her. But I made her practice a lot at first, and now at least once a month. With a caliber that small she needs to worry about shot placement and not just abiut squeezing the trigger.
Or start reloading instead of buying a second pistol.[/QUOTE]
Ive actually considered reloading. I do a little IPSC shooting and between practicing and doing matches, ammo goes by so fast. I shoot a XD tactical .45 and the only reason i can afford it is because I have a friend that reloads for me. I take him brass and he loads me 300-500 rounds at a time for .20 cents a round.
But I'm a firm believer that if you take on the resposibily to CCW you must practice a lot. The last thing you want to do is kill some innocent person because you suck at shotting your carry gun.
My wife carries a S&W bodyguard .380 everyday. Thats the pistol she wanted because it was the easiest to carry and shoot for her. But I made her practice a lot at first, and now at least once a month. With a caliber that small she needs to worry about shot placement and not just abiut squeezing the trigger.
05-17-2012, 11:53 AM
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Q: Can I carry a handgun if I am drinking alcohol?
A: "Carrying" while drinking is not prohibited, but it is a criminal offense to carry while intoxicated.
That means be responsible for your actions, but you already are responsible, or they wouldn't have given you a CHL.
Lots of misinformation here. People need to take the class, get educated, and read the laws.
05-17-2012, 12:05 PM
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I persoally would not drink and carry. My chl instructor told us that its not illegal to drink and carry but you can't be intoxicated while carrying. He also said it all depends on the cop if they wanna be a dick, because theres nothing that states what is considered intoxicated. Just like .08 Is the limit before getting a DWI, some people could be drunk and blow less than the limit. All I know is that I'm not willing to find out the hard way. LOL!
05-17-2012, 12:07 PM
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This is the correct mindset. Know the rules, do what you feel is responsible, don't find out the hard way. I have no issue walking into a non-51% sign-having restaurant and having a drink with dinner, or even a drink with friends, while carrying. But I know I'm responsible and will man up to face the consequences of my actions if something goes wrong.
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05-17-2012, 01:05 PM
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Yep. If you are involved in a shooting and it becomes known you had a drink it will get very ugly. You will probably get reamed in civil court also.
I would tell the cop you have a license just because when she/he runs your license it will show. That cop will wonder why you didn't say anything. Some will care, others won't but why take the chance.
I would tell the cop you have a license just because when she/he runs your license it will show. That cop will wonder why you didn't say anything. Some will care, others won't but why take the chance.
05-17-2012, 01:42 PM
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Yep. If you are involved in a shooting and it becomes known you had a drink it will get very ugly. You will probably get reamed in civil court also.
I would tell the cop you have a license just because when she/he runs your license it will show. That cop will wonder why you didn't say anything. Some will care, others won't but why take the chance.
I would tell the cop you have a license just because when she/he runs your license it will show. That cop will wonder why you didn't say anything. Some will care, others won't but why take the chance.
Shooting another person, whether justified or not, will have your life turned inside out looking for a perponderance of evidence that you are incompetent to own a firearm.
It could be anything from doing a bad job of cleaning the gun, lack of training, lack of experience, were in a bad mood ... anything that the opposing lawyer can sink their claws into they will.
Civil is way different than criminal.
A dude on meth can be busting down your door, threatening your infant daughter with a 10 gutting knife and his family's lawyer will say he was there selling girl scout cookies for his paralyzed, cancer riddled daughter. If 7 believe him and 6 believe you, yer screwed.
Carrying is a HUGE responsibility and commitment.
05-17-2012, 02:52 PM
#72
I'm gonna quote the book on this one. Page 70 of the "Texas Concealed Handgun Laws" states:
Q: Can I carry a handgun if I am drinking alcohol?
A: "Carrying" while drinking is not prohibited, but it is a criminal offense to carry while intoxicated.
That means be responsible for your actions, but you already are responsible, or they wouldn't have given you a CHL.
Lots of misinformation here. People need to take the class, get educated, and read the laws.
Q: Can I carry a handgun if I am drinking alcohol?
A: "Carrying" while drinking is not prohibited, but it is a criminal offense to carry while intoxicated.
That means be responsible for your actions, but you already are responsible, or they wouldn't have given you a CHL.
Lots of misinformation here. People need to take the class, get educated, and read the laws.
05-17-2012, 03:37 PM
#74
Ive had this mind set since before I got my CHL. I'd rather go to jail for saving my wife or kids life from someone trying to hurt them, than living the rest of my life with out them knowing that I could have done something about it.
I hope that i never have to use deadly force against anyone. But like everyone says "its better to have one and not need it, than need it and not have it.
I hope that i never have to use deadly force against anyone. But like everyone says "its better to have one and not need it, than need it and not have it.
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05-17-2012, 05:29 PM
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Yep. If you are involved in a shooting and it becomes known you had a drink it will get very ugly. You will probably get reamed in civil court also.
I would tell the cop you have a license just because when she/he runs your license it will show. That cop will wonder why you didn't say anything. Some will care, others won't but why take the chance.
I would tell the cop you have a license just because when she/he runs your license it will show. That cop will wonder why you didn't say anything. Some will care, others won't but why take the chance.
This is why, in the event of a shooting, you should protect yourself and not say or do a damn thing until you get to your lawyer. There are no circumstances which would change this advice for me. Accept no breath test, no blood test, no intoxication tests. Take the ride to jail, knowing you saved a life, and don't say anything. Without PC or warrant, they have no right to collect biological samples from you. Period.
In response to your 2nd:
This is why I would always recommend immediately showing the CHL to the police and let them know your carrying status, whether you are currently carrying or not. This will put the cop at ease and prevent them from taking an anxiety-ridden walk to/from your car. They'll never wonder if you're carrying if they've just disarmed you, and they won't wonder why you didn't tell them you're a CHL if you tell ASAP. After all, police have a right to disarm you during any interaction if they believe it will create a more secure environment for them to conduct business. Don't act like the guy that gets arrested, simple as that.
