409CISecondGen

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That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

I8ASaleen

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Which brings me back to my references to Hawking and the other books

LS2 KLR

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I grew up babtist and like most I never questioned my faith or beliefs. However, when I took World History my freshman year of high school I learned about other religions. I realized my religion wasn't nearly as special as I thought. Once out of high school I started reading books on religion, philosophy, and evolution. The rest is history....


"Faith is a cop-out. It is intellectual bankruptcy. If the only way you can accept an assertion is by faith, then you are conceding that it can't be taken on its own merits." Dan Barker

I8ASaleen

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Geez, coming in at the last minute. You read the thread? I made some recommendations for those who are so "settled" in their understanding of the beginning of the universe.

jc98ss

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holy **** man, let it go....are you trying to recruit people or something?......you believe what you want.....you choose to word things however you want.....but i'm not going to pop off and tell you you're stupid and that you've got misunderstanding if i don't particularly agree with something you said.....you're entitled to your opinion, if you stray a little off topic in the midst of conversation, so be it.....if not, that's great too....if you use a juvenile analogy, fine.......yeah, the fries thing was kind of juvenile, but get the **** off my nuts

I8ASaleen

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Huh? Why are you even quoting what I said to someone else?

Also, as a whole, the OT topic was out of control. I said I knew the misinformation coming from both sides but I wouldn't take the time b/c people get butthurt like you just did. You brought a knife to a gunfight with people talking about the origins of the universe and you got called out on it - not my fault. Then you and others went on an OT bender that was rife with misinformation - not my fault. I'm on your side (kind of), but don't expect me to cover up for your inadequacies.

Also class act on the rebuttal there with the nutswinging, how old are you?

jc98ss

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out of control?.....we were discussing "How life started".....i said i believed God as it was written......so how is what we were saying not on topic?......he asked a question referring to the Bible and i gave my answer.....it was all relative to the topic, you got your panties stuck in the back of your throat for some reason, and felt like you needed to take control of the direction of the thread.....if you believe something different, that's fine......but don't tell me i'm tossing misinformation for stating my opinion....you went on a little bender talking about evil, so just what does that have to do with the origins of the universe??.....was all of your talk about "evil" an example of you spewing out "misunderstanding"?

zamora7

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This is quite interesting to see all different point of views. I am catholic because thats how I was raised, but by no means am I religious. I did learn about the whole Adam and Eve thing but it just doesnt make sense to me that thats our origin. Religion is kind of confusing to me and the big bang theoryand evolution make more sense to me. After we evolved, was there a God? That would make more sense I would think than before anything ever existed, but its all in faitj when ot comes to religion.

69gto96z

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Do you remember playing the game as a kid where you tell one person something, and they tell the next person, and on and on until the story gets back to you? The story was always completely different by the time it got back to you.

This is how I look at the bible. After thousands of years, the stories have been edited and translated. Though the bible may have some truth to it, I believe most of it has turned into a miscommunicated load of crap.

IMO religion had its time and place when mankind needed something to believe in, before science came along and was able to prove answers to questions people have had for many many years.

I8ASaleen

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Internet = srs bzns.

I came into the thread 1st knowing that it should be locked, 2nd I provided some useful information that wasn't immediately debunked by 2 other people. 3rd, I did not admit that I wasn't "smart enough to convince" someone else about their faith or "leaning on faith." 4th I made a comment about the lack of intelligent discussion, then 5th I responded to others posts of a philosophical nature (being the problem of evil and the nature of what a god is).

Then I get to you, jc98ss, who comes out of nowhere blindly asserting faith without question amidst a thread that talks about the origins of life and the universe. I'm not trying to "win" people to a side but I do bring a certain bit of thought to the subject so others can actually debate. Please tell me how my references to Stephen Hawking and my debate with 409 "took control of the thread?" If anything it tried to steer it away from making the thread into a devolving debate on religion that is clearly banned in the forum rules.

05 GSXR 1XXX

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Anyone hear about that scientist thinks we are part of a "sim" game. Buddy sent me a link to it the other day pretty wild idea, I'll try and find the link

NemeSS

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Ancient race that evolved from some other lifeform. Brought our race here as slaves.
Kinda like petri dish experiment, left us to our luck and own will.
Been observing us, prolly did not expect us to become as intelligent as we think we are.
Developing technology and such.
Early humans dreamed of our present. How did the idea of electricity,fire,weapons,planes,spaceships, manifest in human brains and set them out to create them??
I am a christian, but have questioned what doesnt make sense to me.
I find it funny, how people of faith believe in god, but not other entities. Its no different to me believing in god or entities from another realm or world.
I actually had a preacher get very upset when i mentioned that god may not be as good as hes made out to be.
He can forgive the fallen angel and bury the hatchet and restore what ever problems they had between them.
Why did the fallen angel have on god, thst caused god to banish him and turn him into a demon?
What caused god to become so angry, to eliminate one of his elite angels?
Why did god need warrior angels? What was god battling or defending himself from before the devil?
I mentioned that the solution to rid evil from man, was for god to just forgivr the devil.
Problem solved. But yet did not, so now we gotta ride it out til we die and be involved in their grudge. So basically its do as i say, not do as i do

FireHawk178

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I like turtles

SHovV

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Why is bread square, and lunch meat round!? There's just some questions we will never have answers to.

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Ws6kid.

Im catholic I go to church and im a active member in the community.
But I am studying to be a Mechanical engineer. So all the physics ive been studying has giving me a "new Light" to how life really started... Who knows....
Personally i have decided how life really started.
Thats my story/opinion.
ws6kid.

BIGDRAGON

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The tomb is empty and that say's it all.

FireHawk178

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Ever try to slice a round loaf of bread? Next...

I8ASaleen

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Ladies and Germs, may I present to you: the butthurt




Cause really


This is why no religion and politics are allowed

jc98ss

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the butthurt???
wow, did you just tattletale on me?..........thanks for proving my point, you really are a bitch...

XtremeBBQ

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lol at the 'christians' going back and forth at each other while the atheist havent done anything.

seriously thoough, enough with the 12yr old 'u mad?' pics and all. lets keep it civil and try and understand others outlooks.

thanks
-hail thor