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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 07:34 PM
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I will be here for the summer. Open door to whoever.
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by culhan9
I'd be down too! I keep reading older guys, I'm past college but dont by any means consider myself old! I live and work here so I'll definately be here this summer! I havent had the time lately due to WORK! But anyways I should be there tonight! I'd like to get to meet some more of you guys!

Oh yeah one more thing I dont think that the club shouldnt be limited to only the mentioned above, it should include any kind of muscle car/truck.My 2 cents:
This was our original intent, we actually submitted an application for this type of club, tenatively called "aggie hot rod association" but the people at student activities thought it was too similiar to what the TAMSCC is/does. And once a club is recognized by the university another club cannot be recognized to compete with the already established club. sux, but this is the next best thing. and all "pony car enthusiasts" will be welcome.

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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DesertFox
This was our original intent, we actually submitted an application for this type of club, tenatively called "aggie hot rod association" but the people at student activities thought it was too similiar to what the TAMSCC is/does. And once a club is recognized by the university another club cannot be recognized to compete with the already established club. sux, but this is the next best thing. and all "pony car enthusiasts" will be welcome.

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Ahhhh, now it all makes sense! I'll have to get familar with what this other club is all about!
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 10:16 PM
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The 'other' club has changed its goals back and forth from over the years. TAMSCC hosts autox's, car shows, drag events, BBQs, etc. All kinds of stuff related to motorsports. I met a lot of great people while at A&M and in the club, but I met a lot of d!ckhe@d5 as well...

The idea of a pony car club would be great, but that in itself can become 'clique-ish' - which is understandably by design... Be aware though that the TAMSCC ran into issues in 98-2000 (and it sounds like it hasn't changed much) because of that elitist attitude. The unwillingness to accept, or even speak to enthusiasts in areas that didn't match the few caused membership and participation to plummet... Although there will always be different and opposing points of view, there should be a happy medium somewhere.

For what it is worth... BTW, I am an ex-chairman in the TAMSCC...
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 10:54 PM
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and it sounds like it hasn't changed much) because of that elitist attitude. The unwillingness to accept, or even speak to enthusiasts in areas that didn't match the few
This attitude is stilll around (though not as much it has died down since I have been here, 2 years), probably leftover from the people who were around when you were. That is one of the reasons I too am an ex-chairman. The hope is that this club will be friendly, and for the members, and not just the regulars.

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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 11:30 PM
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So when do you plan on trying to get this started?
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by LankyLS-1
TAMSCC hosts autox's, car shows, drag events, BBQs, etc.
Don't forget Rallyes!

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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 11:34 PM
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I don't know if/when this will get started.

And don't forget the rallyes, they are still pretty fun.

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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 11:45 PM
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I may have missed this but as a club what are your goals and what do you plan on doing?

I know this is still in the making but I am just curious to see what your plans are.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 12:02 AM
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This is more of an enthusiasts club i guess, not so much an auto club. Kinda like what goes on mostly at wed/friday meets, and drag events in there as well if there is interest. There was alot of interest in drag racing that tamscc wasn't able to pull in due to attitude towards that field of racing.

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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by will69camaro
There was alot of interest in drag racing that tamscc wasn't able to pull in due to attitude towards that field of racing.
Attitude? This is the most active drag racing we've had in years since Nasty shutdown. It's a little tough to have big drag racing turnouts when the nearest strip is hours away you know. It's not like our "ATTITUDE" scared Nasty into closure
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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With a name like that, we should have cars that can at least run quicker than 13's
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by z28evans
With a name like that, we should have cars that can at least run quicker than 13's
over half the cars at the wednesday night gtgs run quicker than 13's.....i kinda liked the name... but to each their own i guess....
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Pranav
Attitude? This is the most active drag racing we've had in years since Nasty shutdown. It's a little tough to have big drag racing turnouts when the nearest strip is hours away you know. It's not like our "ATTITUDE" scared Nasty into closure
You're right your attitude didnt' close down navasota but when you (most people i talked to in the club) talk down to people like drag racing because if i may quote an officer at the time "any monkey can learn to drag race" it tends to turn people off. Pranav your a nice person, one of the better members in the club. This isn't a replacement for TAMSCC, i know it could never be, it's just an enthusiast club for a section that was never "friendly" towards the motorsport i was passionate about.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by will69camaro
Ytalk down to people like drag racing because if i may quote an officer at the time "any monkey can learn to drag race" it tends to turn people off.
That's not talking down to people, that's a fact. Of course the monkey wouldn't really be good, but that wasn't the point. You can't deny that drag racing is conceptually very simple. Of course that says nothing about how hard it is to get a car to be very fast at drag racing, or that it's not a worthwhile endeavor.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 04:44 PM
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sounds great yall keep up the good work it is good to see that someone is starting a car club instead of a drama club. Just let me know when yall get everything finalized and i will be there.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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how is autoXing hard "conceptually"?? getting laid isn't hard isn't hard "conceptually", but i know some ppl that just can't figure it out.

using a qualifier, especially one as pathetic as that, to justify a bias is even worse than the bias in the first place.

if drag racing is too easy then just stick to TAMSCC.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 05:36 PM
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I use qualifiers to be more precise in my statements.

I can lay out my theory for you if you don't agree to show that my idea is not derived from a bias but from reason.

Idea behind an autox: you have a start and a goal, and any number of cones laid out in any(well there are a few limits like it has to be fairly obvious which gate follows the next, but for this intellectual exercise I will just say the number of possible combinations might as well be infinite) pattern on the surface. You must pass through the cones in the correct order to get from the start to the goal in the shortest amount of time. To do this requires that you attempt to follow the imaginary 'racing line' for your car, as defined as the line your car would take to achieve the fastest possible time. This requires utilizing all aspects of the car, acceleration, braking, turning, in a well balanced manner as well as being able to visualize what line you should take.
If you want to present another model for autox that is simpler, be my guest.

Idea behind a drag race: you have a fixed length of track in a straight line, you start at a designated time and try to get to the end as fast as possible. This requires keeping the car going straight and accelerating.

Unless you want to try to prove that following a line and turning == following a line that is perfectly straight, I don't see how you can say drag racing is the same as autox in terms of complexity.

Just to reiterate, the complexity of something and being able to be the best at it do not necessarily correlate( think simple to use a yoyo, ridiculously hard to win a world championship trick yoyo contest )


If you want to argue that the word conceptual is pathetic, or that thinking of things in abstracted form rather than in one particular instance is pointless, well I'm afraid I can't help you there.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 05:46 PM
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Perhaps some of the blame for bad drag events should be placed on the shoulders of the (former) drag chair...
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BrandonAGr
I use qualifiers to be more precise in my statements.

I can lay out my theory for you if you don't agree to show that my idea is not derived from a bias but from reason.

Idea behind an autox: you have a start and a goal, and any number of cones laid out in any(well there are a few limits like it has to be fairly obvious which gate follows the next, but for this intellectual exercise I will just say the number of possible combinations might as well be infinite) pattern on the surface. You must pass through the cones in the correct order to get from the start to the goal in the shortest amount of time. To do this requires that you attempt to follow the imaginary 'racing line' for your car, as defined as the line your car would take to achieve the fastest possible time. This requires utilizing all aspects of the car, acceleration, braking, turning, in a well balanced manner as well as being able to visualize what line you should take.
If you want to present another model for autox that is simpler, be my guest.

Idea behind a drag race: you have a fixed length of track in a straight line, you start at a designated time and try to get to the end as fast as possible. This requires keeping the car going straight and accelerating.

Unless you want to try to prove that following a line and turning == following a line that is perfectly straight, I don't see how you can say drag racing is the same as autox in terms of complexity.

Just to reiterate, the complexity of something and being able to be the best at it do not necessarily correlate( think simple to use a yoyo, ridiculously hard to win a world championship trick yoyo contest )


If you want to argue that the word conceptual is pathetic, or that thinking of things in abstracted form rather than in one particular instance is pointless, well I'm afraid I can't help you there.
Listen I don't know you or at least I don't think that I do, but I would love to take the time and discuss this with you tomorrow at Sonic if you would like to show up.

This topic is silly. Drag racing and Autoxing are not a simple task to performe and if they were EVERYONE would excel in both. One can argue both ways. Fact is have a autoxing club if you like, but you are still welcome to show up at sonic or wednesday nights.

Personally I think my car would get you in both classes!!! See you there if you wanna talk.

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