Emissions Testing In Progress Van
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I give it gas when I go through them... Or used to when I had the T/A 408 with 3" duals, no emmissions (like everyone else) etc. I'm sure it through off some codes, and I never got a letter or anything.Hell I'd slow down and rev it around them just to **** with it.
yah, im a little off beat.
Originally Posted by dubs6
Well my car is dumped, no cats, 236/230 so I wasnt taking my chances. I was told the same thing about them using infrared sensors. I killed mine though and never got a letter or anything so who knows. The van was off I35 in North lewisville. Not a bad area at all.
Originally Posted by TheBlurLS1
Steal the plates off the van, put them on your open headers LSx car, double the PE table, then go WOT past them. 
Didn't some kids do this to a speeding camera somewhere? The county recieved a **** load of tickets? Seemed like I read this somewhere.
Didn't some kids do this to a speeding camera somewhere? The county recieved a **** load of tickets? Seemed like I read this somewhere.
ive seen them in houston plenty of times set up on 290 when i wasnt emissions legal, maybe the out of state plates helped out on that cause......... they take shots of the front plate or the rear plate?
they can dispatch some one to nebraska if they like, although the car wont be there
they can dispatch some one to nebraska if they like, although the car wont be there
Last edited by mattr228; Sep 28, 2006 at 08:44 PM.
Originally Posted by TheBlurLS1
Steal the plates off the van, put them on your open headers LSx car, double the PE table, then go WOT past them.
Didn't some kids do this to a speeding camera somewhere? The county recieved a **** load of tickets? Seemed like I read this somewhere.
Didn't some kids do this to a speeding camera somewhere? The county recieved a **** load of tickets? Seemed like I read this somewhere.
lmao
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but for real... the last i checked, the Bill of Rights, amendement 4 states:
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. "
i HIGHLY doubt that a emissions van qualifies as probable cause, because if the police just pulled over random cars without reason and performed searches looking for illegal things, there would be public outrage. an emissions van is even worse than police officers doing it themselves... it is flat out orwellian in nature.
as a new voter in TX this year, i fully plan on talking to my representitive about this BS.
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. "
i HIGHLY doubt that a emissions van qualifies as probable cause, because if the police just pulled over random cars without reason and performed searches looking for illegal things, there would be public outrage. an emissions van is even worse than police officers doing it themselves... it is flat out orwellian in nature.
as a new voter in TX this year, i fully plan on talking to my representitive about this BS.
I know san antonio does not have emmisions testing but I have seen one of those a couple of times in the last year at the I-10 410 interchange and one on 281 N by san pedro. At least I was in truck did not have a clue what it was.
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Originally Posted by slayer_taunu
but for real... the last i checked, the Bill of Rights, amendement 4 states:
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. "
i HIGHLY doubt that a emissions van qualifies as probable cause, because if the police just pulled over random cars without reason and performed searches looking for illegal things, there would be public outrage. an emissions van is even worse than police officers doing it themselves... it is flat out orwellian in nature.
as a new voter in TX this year, i fully plan on talking to my representitive about this BS.
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. "
i HIGHLY doubt that a emissions van qualifies as probable cause, because if the police just pulled over random cars without reason and performed searches looking for illegal things, there would be public outrage. an emissions van is even worse than police officers doing it themselves... it is flat out orwellian in nature.
as a new voter in TX this year, i fully plan on talking to my representitive about this BS.
But that is not considered illegal search and seizure. They won't cart you off to jail because you didn't pass their "emissions road test". All that will happen is that you might not be able to renew your registration. But you can do what a lot of poeple do in this state. Don't do emissions and vehicle renewal. I'm sure you won't write your congressman about people stealing from the state by not paying for their respective vehicles!
You gonna call the ACLU next? Now there's a waste of tax payers dollars.
Why are people so against doing what is "the law" by emission testing, speeding, double parking, not keeping right unless to pass.....get my point?
Who are we to choose what laws to obey and dis-obey?
Originally Posted by Splitz
Why are people so against doing what is "the law" by emission testing, speeding, double parking, not keeping right unless to pass.....get my point?
Who are we to choose what laws to obey and dis-obey?
Who are we to choose what laws to obey and dis-obey?
this is the same discussion as the one about whether or not to let a cop search your car without probable cause when pulled over for a traffic stop. some people say 'well if you have nothing to hide, just let them do it so you can get it over with and go about your business'. well if the cops went door to door searching people's houses without probably cause... well i dont think you'd like that too much, even if you have nothing to hide. its just a violation of your privacy.
testing your vehicle's emissions without your consent is a search without probably cause or a warrant, and thus is also not right.
Originally Posted by slayer_taunu
well if the cops went door to door searching people's houses without probably cause...
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testing your vehicle's emissions without your consent is a search without probably cause or a warrant, and thus is also not right.
I don't like it, but IMO, cleaning up the environment is a good thing. Houston and Dallas are some of of smoggiest cities in the US. With that in mind, I'd like to see heavier penalties on Hummers, other big SUVs, and cars of that nature. Our laws are pretty lax...get a 25year old car and run whatever you want. No emissions, no nothing
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Originally Posted by DSIM
They test your emission output, if you fail they take a picture and mail you something that tells you to get your **** fixed by someone certified by the state. I went by one off of 183 in my camaro with the cut out open.... just pushed the clutch in and idled by it.... no letter for me. They try to get you when you are accelerating, putting out the most emissions possible, if you are at idle.... not so much pollution coming out.
Originally Posted by 96-speed
No offense, but you mean "probable" cause .
I don't like it, but IMO, cleaning up the environment is a good thing.
.I don't like it, but IMO, cleaning up the environment is a good thing.
yes, i'm all for protecting the environment... but there is a right way and a wrong way for the gov't to enforce it. there has to be a happy medium between enforement of laws and protecting people right to privacy and whatnot. no one will ever agree... not the people, not the gov't.
Originally Posted by slayer_taunu
ok captain grammar, this is a car forum, not a spelling bee
. Again, no offense meant.
yes, i'm all for protecting the environment... but there is a right way and a wrong way for the gov't to enforce it. there has to be a happy medium between enforement of laws and protecting people right to privacy and whatnot. no one will ever agree... not the people, not the gov't.
That brings us to another issue: Would it be right for the governement to restrict usage of larger vehicles (like Hummers and Diesel trucks) to work/commerical duty in order to cut down pollution? While I hate seeing all these posers with 4wd Diesels driving around by themselves, calling it a "tow vehcile" (even though its never come close to towing its full capacity), I don't think government should tell me how to use my own car or what I can or cannot drive.
The efficiency of LSx and the support form the aftermarket and GM will allow LSx'ers to make insane power and still be within emission requirements.
But, yeah, those white vans make me nervous. V for Vendetta is a good movie about the premise of this subject.
Ryan
Originally Posted by 96-speed
How else can the governement enforce it? Driving is a priveledge, not a God given right.
That brings us to another issue: Would it be right for the governement to restrict usage of larger vehicles (like Hummers and Diesel trucks) to work/commerical duty in order to cut down pollution? While I hate seeing all these posers with 4wd Diesels driving around by themselves, calling it a "tow vehcile" (even though its never come close to towing its full capacity), I don't think government should tell me how to use my own car or what I can or cannot drive.
if GM can make a 500HP corvette that meets EPA emissions requirements and avoids a gas guzzler tax, then tehre is no reason a high HP or torque work truck cant meet the requirements and be emissions compliant.