LS1Aggie09

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I posted this in ext. engine but figured you texas guys know your stuff very well so... I am beginning to look at getting a cam and obviously heads but am wanting low end torque to boot. I love having power off the line. I see that a cam similar to the C2 matched with AFR 205 heads will put you over 400 RWHP easy but I do not want to spend 2200 bucks on just heads.

What do you think of the C2 (224/224 .581/.581 112) or G1 (228/232 .588/.575 113) matched with some stock 243 heads and tune and valvesprings would do and how would it sound? Would it still have low end torque and put me over 400 RWHP for around 1500 bucks?

I am fairly new to researching this stuff and don't really fully grasp the relationship between cam and the heads through which it allows flow so bare with me please!

00T\A

G1 would be my choice.

fastflames

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G1, no doubt.

TXZ28LS1

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anybody have any numbers on the g1 cam? ive seen a couple.

Nail2002

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Before some other bolt-ons, with the G1, LT's and stock heads, I hit just under 380 rwhp (425 engine) and like 360 rwtrq. 2002 SS

CANTEX

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02 RA - Stock head, LTs,Off Road Y, Pully, 12 bolt 3.42s, LID, MTI Tune,6 speed with the G1 cam. Car made 389 rwhp and I dont have the TQ numbers. I can say the car feels soggy down low.I Need 4.11s. I think it will be a good cam with some gear.

LS1Aggie09

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i guess that means that the G1 makes a lot of power up top then if you are needing 4.11s...anyone have any dyno graphs of their G1? I am still wanting tons of low end torque which is why i included the C2 as a choice

CANTEX

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Most everything has a trade off. The cam, the long tubes and the 3.42s are not a great match for low end TQ in my opinion. Its not that the car feels slow. just down low its could use more TQ. Im going to be adding some gear and a set of heads in the future so this cam should workout pretty nice for me. If I was staying with my current set up, I would get a cam that made more TQ down low. The C2 may be better for you if you are staying with what you have. If your up for more gear and maybe a set of heads in the future I would say get the G1. Its a great cam but will need more then 3.42s with your current set up in my opinion. If Im driving slow in a parking lot my car lugs.

Summery:More upgrades later get the G1
If your done after this cam upgrade get something else.

anLS1x2

I know exactly what you mean. I have a S-Cam from HPE and if I'm doing anything under 1500rpm the car lurches like an 18 wheeler getting going with a real heavy load. I think thats what you mean by "lugging". Going through a 20mph school zone is a nightmare. I either have to do 25-30 or leave it in first at 2500-3000rpms.

Karl,

Why are you set on MTI cams? Not that they aren't good cams, just curious. With my S-Cam, LTs, 3.42 gears, I am putting down A LOT of torque. My car keeps getting faster and faster. It is definately sitting at 400+ rwhp now. It took a little while for it to wake up, but it finally did, and it is crazy fast!

LS1Aggie09

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im not really set on MTI, just thought id mention those thinkin people might know those specs a little better...i guess i am needing to know a little bit about how to match a good cam to a set of heads more than anything...off topic: did you ever get my email jeff?

Nwmembr19

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I don't think that you will need the heads to hit 400rwhp. i don't have experience with the g1 but i have the tr224 which is like the c2 but with less lift and i hit 391 rwhp and 386 rwtq. Also the car put down over 350rwtq from 3000 to a hair below 6000. The std corrected number was 399rwhp so i figure a switch to synthetic oil and a day with less heat and humidity i would probably be at 400rwhp. Also i agree with cantex without a gear i would not have wanted to go any higher in duration the car could probably still use a 3.73 but the driveability and power are still there without it. And not to thread jack but i definately recommend GForce for tuning. Before the tune i really couldnt tell a big power difference, the car didnt want to idle right and i felt i lost some low end driveability. It was kind of making me rethink the cam, but after i got it tuned it now starts right up, idles good, and runs like a bat out of hell or a spotted *** ape or some kind of crazy **** like that. All i know is for a cam only car it runs hard. And a cam question should be posted in the internal engine section.

SHINER

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dont get just stock LS6 heads, i did this and only gained like 12 whp and spent like 550. I would spend like 400 more bucks and gain 25whp.

G1 is a great cam, but i think MTI uses lunati grinds and i think comp has a better/aggressive profile.

also if your still into MTI check out their X1 reverse split cam they put out good power

ap2002

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I would go with the C2, which should have alot better street manners, but what do I know I drive a truck.....

anLS1x2

Yeah, I got your email, thanks for the pic!

Also, I know you already know this, but keep in mind that you need to think about the big picture and what you have in mind for the car in the future. You don't want to keep upping your cam and heads a little at a time. Take me for instance, I went big right off the bat because I know that I will be raceing my car in the next couple of years. I also tend to think that you can find a Comp Cam comparable to any of the custom grinds out there and it will cost you a 1/4 of the price. Keep me updated.

anLS1x2

Just found this, check it out:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/texas-members/616422-fs-patriot-stg-iii-assembled-heads-700-00-a.html

This is a great deal!

TXZ28LS1

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see thats my issue also. i dont want to go too big of a cam, and worry bout maintenance and all. i have no intentions of going to the track or trying to rip 10's!!

LEO

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I had a 2000 Z28(M6) with MTI stage 2R heads(5.3) with a C2 cam, that I drove around for 3 years. It was my only car and I drove it back and forth from Houston to Chicago about 3 times, avg. on trips 28 mpg with the stock 3.42 gear. The car made 425-430 rwhp and ran 11.9 @ 120 mph on 245/50/16 Nitto DR. Lastly, as a testament to the cars reliability and drivability, I drove it every day for 1 1/2 years in Chicago. I believe with a stock set of LS6 heads and the C2 cam you should see 380-400 rwhp with a good tune.

RobG03Z06

My ride has the C2 cam w/stage 2e heads, it's fine for the street, has good torque and a nice idle @850rpm.