someone prove me wrong..
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Originally Posted by Elite_Hot_Rod
lmao, no doubt. I think he's talking about me making 750 RWHP reliably. My set up wasn't cheap but mine was built several years ago, much cheaper now. SC300 I'm not stock, it's a 6.0 ltr iron block bored .030 over, the block was decked and the decks were prepped for Cometic gaskets, line bored and honed. Callies 4" forged crank, Crower forged rods, Diamond forged and coated pistons, Hellfire hand file fit N20 rings, Cometic head gaskets, GM 317 head blanks, 2.055 intake valves, 1.60 exhaust valves, Comp dual springs, custom CNC work on the heads, 1/2" ARP head studs, Comp Cams 244/248 .612/.615 on a 114 +4 LSA, GMPP single plane intake manifold bunged for fuel injection, Accufab T/B, Compucar N20 plate system, 40LB SVO injectors, billet fuel rails, ARP fastners top to bottom and front to back. Thru a 4500 RPM converter, PG and 9" it makes 500RWHP on motor and 750RWHP on a 275 shot. The car will runs 9's all day long and doesn't hurt anything. Anymore 750 and above it relatively easy to do and fairly cheap too.
Originally Posted by sc300
any induction..
G and Jeff, how much would it really cost to build a set-up like yours??
G and Jeff, how much would it really cost to build a set-up like yours??
Jeff
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Originally Posted by sc300
i didnt get to where im today by doing dumb ****..i like fast cars, but just dont build one that will break me...thats the reason i have always have a fast car, i choose a car that i know will be strong and look good..i only do what is necessary to make them fast.. (i dont like old beat up cars with a SBC and lots of nitrous)
my old 240 ran mid 10s with a 4 stock cylinder with just after market pistons and rods and a turbo kit and fuel sytems..running stock tranny and everything else...my supra runs 9 using a stock rebuild tranny and stock rear end and axles..using that similar motor combo and dropped it in my 240 and it ran mid 8s with a TH350..
i would like to make my C6 run mid 10s to, but its gonna cost me an arm and a leg to get it there...for all that money i can buy me another car...
my old 240 ran mid 10s with a 4 stock cylinder with just after market pistons and rods and a turbo kit and fuel sytems..running stock tranny and everything else...my supra runs 9 using a stock rebuild tranny and stock rear end and axles..using that similar motor combo and dropped it in my 240 and it ran mid 8s with a TH350..
i would like to make my C6 run mid 10s to, but its gonna cost me an arm and a leg to get it there...for all that money i can buy me another car...
Originally Posted by sc300
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...2&page=1&pp=20
this the the 67 camaro that has the supra motor in it that i have been talking about..
i know that alot of people dont like this idea due the brand loyalty..besides that..
how much would it really cost to make 1000bhp(thru motor) with an LSX reliably thru a 6 speed?????
dont be biased...because i see people here breaking **** all the times and no one has even reliably made 800hp yet??
this the the 67 camaro that has the supra motor in it that i have been talking about..
i know that alot of people dont like this idea due the brand loyalty..besides that..
how much would it really cost to make 1000bhp(thru motor) with an LSX reliably thru a 6 speed?????
dont be biased...because i see people here breaking **** all the times and no one has even reliably made 800hp yet??
Last edited by 1936FordPU; May 23, 2007 at 07:33 AM.
we made over 720 hp on pump gas with an ls2... over 925 on the gun. Literally over 100 dyno pulls and track numbers will be done as soon as we get the new longtubes ready. Just depends on who is building and WHO is tuning.
Originally Posted by BigBronco
we made over 720 hp on pump gas with an ls2... over 925 on the gun. Literally over 100 dyno pulls and track numbers will be done as soon as we get the new longtubes ready. Just depends on who is building and WHO is tuning.
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Originally Posted by sc300
so how much did run you???????
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just ask mightymouse in the FI forum how much he spent on his car. His forumula ran 9's w/ an M6 and it was his only car. Only car. made close to 1000rw.
How he has the same set up in a heavier TA w/ a 4L80E, runs 9's again on drag radials.
How he has the same set up in a heavier TA w/ a 4L80E, runs 9's again on drag radials.
Duy, it seems like you ask the same question every three months or so.
"The 2JZGTE Supra engine is the best engine in the world, why should I modify an LS1?"
Go ahead and copy/paste that question for next quarter. Even though people always provide you with answers and examples, you seem to never pay attention or take notes. It is very obvious you have the funds to get a reputable LS1 shop to build you a kick-*** engine and boosted combo. You already know that the 2JZ engine can handle more power in stock form, so why keep asking? We already know. LS1s were not blessed with forged internals and redundant head bolts. What is keeping you from buying the GM LSX block, a set of forged internals, and your fancy custom turbo system? Should be damn reliable, and it is obvious you have the funds Mr. Cayenne twin-turbo daily driver with a C6 beater and 8-second Supra toy.
For the record, I think Supras kick *** and the engines are damn impressive. I just wonder why you feel the need to keep asking the same question every time, as if your rhetoric will suddenly change the minds of 1000s of LS1 enthusiasts who will drop their cars to go buy $40,000 used Toyotas.
"The 2JZGTE Supra engine is the best engine in the world, why should I modify an LS1?"
Go ahead and copy/paste that question for next quarter. Even though people always provide you with answers and examples, you seem to never pay attention or take notes. It is very obvious you have the funds to get a reputable LS1 shop to build you a kick-*** engine and boosted combo. You already know that the 2JZ engine can handle more power in stock form, so why keep asking? We already know. LS1s were not blessed with forged internals and redundant head bolts. What is keeping you from buying the GM LSX block, a set of forged internals, and your fancy custom turbo system? Should be damn reliable, and it is obvious you have the funds Mr. Cayenne twin-turbo daily driver with a C6 beater and 8-second Supra toy.
For the record, I think Supras kick *** and the engines are damn impressive. I just wonder why you feel the need to keep asking the same question every time, as if your rhetoric will suddenly change the minds of 1000s of LS1 enthusiasts who will drop their cars to go buy $40,000 used Toyotas.
Originally Posted by Nine Ball
Duy, it seems like you ask the same question every three months or so.
"The 2JZGTE Supra engine is the best engine in the world, why should I modify an LS1?"
"The 2JZGTE Supra engine is the best engine in the world, why should I modify an LS1?"
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we sat down and thought about what it would cost from oil pan to intake, from tuning to fuel systems, and to make a solid 800rw pump gas motor, close to the high 900rwhp even 1000rwhp area on race gas, and you could build a simple 6.0l truck motor, with some worked over ls6 heads and a big turbo should run around 10-14k like Jeff said, for a reliable set up.
anyway you cut it, a 1000 hp motor will still be pricey, and i'm sure it still cost around the same amount to make that power with a 2jz
I guess we could ask Kareem bc he makes over 1000rwhp on boost alone to see how much he spent on it.
anyway you cut it, a 1000 hp motor will still be pricey, and i'm sure it still cost around the same amount to make that power with a 2jz
I guess we could ask Kareem bc he makes over 1000rwhp on boost alone to see how much he spent on it.
when it comes down to it it, mods costs the same. IF you include the cost of the car I can say the Fbody has an advantage by probably $20k 
, but if resale is a factor, supra wins.
, but if resale is a factor, supra wins. 
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There are cars that make over 800 reliably. A very good friend of mine's car makes 1040HP @ only 6,600rpm with just 12lb’s of boost on a YSi at only 18deg of total ignition on a very basic 408". Runs 8.20-8.30's @ 163... And its VERY reliable.
As for the Toyota motor in the Camaro, its not my cup of tea, but to each his own. To me its like painting a mustache on the Mona Lisa. But, I know RX-7 owners get upset when they see folks put an LS1 in an FD. I guess what it comes down to is this. Is the owner satisfied? If they are, then I guess it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. In looking at the car, I don't think anyone can argue with the quality of the execution. I think the choice of platform may be where folks want to differ.
I feel the same way about putting Ls1's in Mustangs though. I know folks do it, but its just not something I'd do.
I think there is a lot of brand loyalty in both sides of this thread, and I think folks on both sides have some mis-understandings about facts. But, anyhow, it is what it is...
As for the Toyota motor in the Camaro, its not my cup of tea, but to each his own. To me its like painting a mustache on the Mona Lisa. But, I know RX-7 owners get upset when they see folks put an LS1 in an FD. I guess what it comes down to is this. Is the owner satisfied? If they are, then I guess it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. In looking at the car, I don't think anyone can argue with the quality of the execution. I think the choice of platform may be where folks want to differ.
I feel the same way about putting Ls1's in Mustangs though. I know folks do it, but its just not something I'd do.
I think there is a lot of brand loyalty in both sides of this thread, and I think folks on both sides have some mis-understandings about facts. But, anyhow, it is what it is...
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we sat down and thought about what it would cost from oil pan to intake, from tuning to fuel systems, and to make a solid 800rw pump gas motor, close to the high 900rwhp even 1000rwhp area on race gas, and you could build a simple 6.0l truck motor, with some worked over ls6 heads and a big turbo should run around 10-14k like Jeff said, for a reliable set up.
anyway you cut it, a 1000 hp motor will still be pricey, and i'm sure it still cost around the same amount to make that power with a 2jz
I guess we could ask Kareem bc he makes over 1000rwhp on boost alone to see how much he spent on it.
anyway you cut it, a 1000 hp motor will still be pricey, and i'm sure it still cost around the same amount to make that power with a 2jz
I guess we could ask Kareem bc he makes over 1000rwhp on boost alone to see how much he spent on it.
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Originally Posted by 1936FordPU
LS6 heads are nice when worked correctly, but why dick with sealing issues when you can have an AFR/DART/TFS head with thick decks to aid in clamping on a 4 bolt block to sustain that kind of power with stock style studs?
well we were just sitting around thinking bang for the buck... afr 225's were our other choice, but he was alluding to if you could build a cheap motor to make power...
but it is all in retrospect to prove lsx's are = to 2jz's
