Thanks for nothing HPE
Originally Posted by Chuck@HPE
Lol, ok John. I'm deeply offended by being called a tool from a guy who bought his wife off the internet.
Chuck
Chuck
Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
Weak sauce. My wife is a long time friend of my younger sister. My wife Anne and I go to church together too. In fact if you still regard yourself as a Christian I suggest you refrain from personal comments about my wife or you should avoid going to any big races, because I don't think God would mind if I throw you into the bottom part of a porta potty. Flame away on me you hairless tool but another comment about my wife will make you sorry.
Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
Weak sauce. My wife is a long time friend of my younger sister. My wife Anne and I go to church together too. In fact if you still regard yourself as a Christian I suggest you refrain from personal comments about my wife or you should avoid going to any big races, because I don't think God would mind if I throw you into the bottom part of a porta potty. Flame away on me you hairless tool but another comment about my wife will make you sorry.
why dont you grow the **** up? you call a man gay and insult his sexuality and have the nerve to get pissed because he says you bought your wife on the internet????
wow.. your so bad ! i bet tito ortiz is shakin in his boots
Originally Posted by LostCauseZ06
what a bunch of ******* idiots... i will admit, chuck should have told the dude it was LABELED as a MS3 cam but COME THE **** ON YOU IDIOTS!!!
ITS THE SAME GOD DAMN CAM!!!!!! its ground by the SAME GOD DAMN COMPANY, i guess that if chuck had sanded off MS3 on the back of it and wrote with a sharpy S cam that the situation would have been alright??
what a bunch of whiny *** tool bags. chuck has always been a stand up guy and taken care of his customers. maybe his friends and cars he has SPONSORED should quit ******* him up the *** time and time again over and over. then maybe the dude wouldnt be so hesitant to help people out.
the point still stands.... WHAT THE **** IS THE DIFFERENCE between it being a S cam or a MS3 cam??? you got the car done, it ran good, what in the hell are you bitching for??? its not like it would have performed ANY different with a "s cam"
give me a ******* break.
btw chuck.. i think i somewhat understand why you said you were sick of working on Fbodies... these guys seem like they jsut want to whine about anything and everything. REAL racers see track results, see dyno results and are either happy or pissed... who gives a **** whats in it. if it runs good and all the parts are matched together well then the shop DID THE CAR GOOD!
if somebody knowledgeable like HPE said they had a S cam and a package thats PROVEN to work well together time and time again then i really dont give a **** if they rename somebody else **** that HPE HAS PEICED TOGETHER TO MATCH THINGS, and name it something of their own.
ITS THE SAME GOD DAMN CAM!!!!!! its ground by the SAME GOD DAMN COMPANY, i guess that if chuck had sanded off MS3 on the back of it and wrote with a sharpy S cam that the situation would have been alright??
what a bunch of whiny *** tool bags. chuck has always been a stand up guy and taken care of his customers. maybe his friends and cars he has SPONSORED should quit ******* him up the *** time and time again over and over. then maybe the dude wouldnt be so hesitant to help people out.
the point still stands.... WHAT THE **** IS THE DIFFERENCE between it being a S cam or a MS3 cam??? you got the car done, it ran good, what in the hell are you bitching for??? its not like it would have performed ANY different with a "s cam"
give me a ******* break.
btw chuck.. i think i somewhat understand why you said you were sick of working on Fbodies... these guys seem like they jsut want to whine about anything and everything. REAL racers see track results, see dyno results and are either happy or pissed... who gives a **** whats in it. if it runs good and all the parts are matched together well then the shop DID THE CAR GOOD!
if somebody knowledgeable like HPE said they had a S cam and a package thats PROVEN to work well together time and time again then i really dont give a **** if they rename somebody else **** that HPE HAS PEICED TOGETHER TO MATCH THINGS, and name it something of their own.

It's the principle of it!!! WHAT IF HPE gave you a 402 instead of 408 cuz they were out of stock?! It's basically the same thing made by the same comapny! it'sonly 6 c.i. you know BUT DAMN IT YOU PAID FOR A 408 NOT A 402!! PRINCIPLE!!!
the same thing with IZZY! he paid for an "S" cam not a GAWD DAMN MS3
PRINCIPLE, ETHICS AND CUSTOMER SERVICE SHOULD BE MANDATORY OR AT LEAST NOTICEABLE IN SHOPS AND SPONSORS...
Originally Posted by kornfreak_401
It's the principle of it!!! WHAT IF HPE gave you a 402 instead of 408 cuz they were out of stock?! It's basically the same thing made by the same comapny! it'sonly 6 c.i. you know BUT DAMN IT YOU PAID FOR A 408 NOT A 402!! PRINCIPLE!!!
the same thing with IZZY! he paid for an "S" cam not a GAWD DAMN MS3
PRINCIPLE, ETHICS AND CUSTOMER SERVICE SHOULD BE MANDATORY OR AT LEAST NOTICEABLE IN SHOPS AND SPONSORS...
the same thing with IZZY! he paid for an "S" cam not a GAWD DAMN MS3
PRINCIPLE, ETHICS AND CUSTOMER SERVICE SHOULD BE MANDATORY OR AT LEAST NOTICEABLE IN SHOPS AND SPONSORS...

why dont you grow the **** up? you call a man gay and insult his sexuality and have the nerve to get pissed because he says you bought your wife on the internet????
wow.. your so bad ! i bet tito ortiz is shakin in his boots
wow.. your so bad ! i bet tito ortiz is shakin in his boots
Originally Posted by kornfreak_401
It's the principle of it!!! WHAT IF HPE gave you a 402 instead of 408 cuz they were out of stock?! It's basically the same thing made by the same comapny! it'sonly 6 c.i. you know BUT DAMN IT YOU PAID FOR A 408 NOT A 402!! PRINCIPLE!!!
the same thing with IZZY! he paid for an "S" cam not a GAWD DAMN MS3
PRINCIPLE, ETHICS AND CUSTOMER SERVICE SHOULD BE MANDATORY OR AT LEAST NOTICEABLE IN SHOPS AND SPONSORS...
the same thing with IZZY! he paid for an "S" cam not a GAWD DAMN MS3
PRINCIPLE, ETHICS AND CUSTOMER SERVICE SHOULD BE MANDATORY OR AT LEAST NOTICEABLE IN SHOPS AND SPONSORS...

ummmmmmmmmmm no? thats not even remotely close to the same thing.
lets say springs for instance.... the same company makes the springs.... chuck has some naggy *** customer in a hurry. dude wants comp 918's. chuck says ok.
well, come to find out chuck puts in another reputable shops beehive springs that are the EXACT SAME SPRING as the 918's and perform just as well and ARE THE SAME SPRING WITH A DIFFERENT NAME.
now lets say in your situation you listed chuck said hed sell me a HPE 408. well i get the thing and come to find out its a TSP 408 with the exact same internals as a HPE 408 because TSP and HPE use the same engine builder.
WHAT IS THE ******* DIFFERENCE?
granted he could have told the dude.... im not denying that. but from what ive seen the dude is a bitch and chuck didnt wanna deal with him whining. he wanted a happy customer with a car running to the exact caliber that the customer wanted.
WHAT DID THE CUSTOMER MISS OUT ON EXACTLY? besides having a differently labeled cam it performed IDENTICALLY to what it would have
not defending anyone here.... but honestly who gives a **** who is gay and who isnt..... are you guys that self centered and still in high school to where someone isnt cool if they are gay?..... thats not the situation here.....
Originally Posted by LostCauseZ06
ITS THE SAME GOD DAMN CAM!!!!!! its ground by the SAME GOD DAMN COMPANY, i guess that if chuck had sanded off MS3 on the back of it and wrote with a sharpy S cam that the situation would have been alright??
1) Folks like to be kept apprised of changes if their car and parts.
2) When folks pick a cam, they picked the one they wanted, not the one that is like the one they wanted.
Had it been me, and was asked, I would have said okay, but had it been changed without asking me it would bother me.
2) When folks pick a cam, they picked the one they wanted, not the one that is like the one they wanted.
Had it been me, and was asked, I would have said okay, but had it been changed without asking me it would bother me.
Originally Posted by LostCauseZ06
ummmmmmmmmmm no? thats not even remotely close to the same thing.
lets say springs for instance.... the same company makes the springs.... chuck has some naggy *** customer in a hurry. dude wants comp 918's. chuck says ok.
well, come to find out chuck puts in another reputable shops beehive springs that are the EXACT SAME SPRING as the 918's and perform just as well and ARE THE SAME SPRING WITH A DIFFERENT NAME.
now lets say in your situation you listed chuck said hed sell me a HPE 408. well i get the thing and come to find out its a TSP 408 with the exact same internals as a HPE 408 because TSP and HPE use the same engine builder.
WHAT IS THE ******* DIFFERENCE?
granted he could have told the dude.... im not denying that. but from what ive seen the dude is a bitch and chuck didnt wanna deal with him whining. he wanted a happy customer with a car running to the exact caliber that the customer wanted.
WHAT DID THE CUSTOMER MISS OUT ON EXACTLY? besides having a differently labeled cam it performed IDENTICALLY to what it would have
lets say springs for instance.... the same company makes the springs.... chuck has some naggy *** customer in a hurry. dude wants comp 918's. chuck says ok.
well, come to find out chuck puts in another reputable shops beehive springs that are the EXACT SAME SPRING as the 918's and perform just as well and ARE THE SAME SPRING WITH A DIFFERENT NAME.
now lets say in your situation you listed chuck said hed sell me a HPE 408. well i get the thing and come to find out its a TSP 408 with the exact same internals as a HPE 408 because TSP and HPE use the same engine builder.
WHAT IS THE ******* DIFFERENCE?
granted he could have told the dude.... im not denying that. but from what ive seen the dude is a bitch and chuck didnt wanna deal with him whining. he wanted a happy customer with a car running to the exact caliber that the customer wanted.
WHAT DID THE CUSTOMER MISS OUT ON EXACTLY? besides having a differently labeled cam it performed IDENTICALLY to what it would have

How is that POS 408 working out for you? 119mph traps...yea you could have done that cam only and saved thousands.
Originally Posted by LostCauseZ06
why dont you grow the **** up? you call a man gay and insult his sexuality and have the nerve to get pissed because he says you bought your wife on the internet????
wow.. your so bad ! i bet tito ortiz is shakin in his boots
wow.. your so bad ! i bet tito ortiz is shakin in his boots

Just a swinging
Originally Posted by FransLT1SS
not defending anyone here.... but honestly who gives a **** who is gay and who isnt..... are you guys that self centered and still in high school to where someone isnt cool if they are gay?..... thats not the situation here.....
j/k
Originally Posted by DeerHunter_Z28
Like he said, it's the principle of the situation. And...IT'S NOT THE SAME ******* CAM YOU IDIOT, IT MAY BE SIMILAR BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME.
How is that POS 408 working out for you? 119mph traps...yea you could have done that cam only and saved thousands.
How is that POS 408 working out for you? 119mph traps...yea you could have done that cam only and saved thousands.
umm might wanna talk to erik koenig about my 408 and 119 MPH traps and then you might wanna get your bitch *** up to 9000FT DA and see how you like losing 80 RWHP
some people are such ******* morons.. .i swear to god.





