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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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I just broght a lincoln 185 mig welder and i see they sell aluminum wire for mig so how well do the welds turn out and how hard is it to mig weld aluminum
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 07:15 PM
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pushing the wire sucks for alum mig.
get a handle spool, if you want to get anything done. Or you like stoping ever 10mins for a jam.
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 07:31 PM
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Make sure when you weld you push rather than pull, or else you will have a black soot. Also, as you go along with your weld, speed up.

http://www.millerwelds.com/education...lermatic.html#

Look for the aluminum instructional video.
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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Is the 185 an AC/DC machine?
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 08:36 PM
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We tried fixing a couple of ladders, the guy was a good mig welder on steel for years. He just never got a good weld with the mig on alum, he actually ended up buying the TIG add on kit for the welder. He said it was alot harder than he thought trying to MIG alum. Good luck.

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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 09:14 PM
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Ill tell you what
I have tried and tried to get the spool gun to work,
on thicker metal like .375 and up it will work.
At work we have a dimension 400 miller with the 30a spool gun attachment, I went to a 50% helium, 50% argon mix called bluesheild #2 the gas helped but still not real pretty. If your making an aluminum trailer it will work,
but an intake or some other hot rod part dont waste your time. it has low penatration on thiner metals because youll have to turn the heat down so much. spool gun =
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JD1969
Is the 185 an AC/DC machine?
When Your mig welding AL. you can try AC and youll find it does not work. I know what your thinking, but you will end up using dc reverse. When you tig youll have to have AC with high freq.
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 09:49 PM
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it seriously takes a lot of practice to get it right...the speed difference from beginning to end is large
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 10:42 PM
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I do a lot of mig welding aluminum, you need to buy a spool gun for your mig welder.
Your mig will weld aluminum as it sets but pushing the soft wire thru the long wip dosn't work very well.
Welding anything less than 1/8" thick will take some pratice.
Welding aluminum is best done in a "spray" mode. Basicly this it when wire melts before
it touches the puddle. When you have it settup right there will no patter and no ****.

Hope this helps.
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 08:07 AM
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guess i will be saving up for a tig machine.lol lol but i will try it to see how it works out with a mig welder
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by TTAWD
I do a lot of mig welding aluminum, you need to buy a spool gun for your mig welder.
Your mig will weld aluminum as it sets but pushing the soft wire thru the long wip dosn't work very well.
Welding anything less than 1/8" thick will take some pratice.
Welding aluminum is best done in a "spray" mode. Basicly this it when wire melts before
it touches the puddle. When you have it settup right there will no patter and no ****.

Hope this helps.

thays exactly correct. The problem with 1/8 or thinner is if you do get penatration it will probaly warp the metal. and thats not cool.
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 10:10 AM
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Any of you guys worked with one of the newer Miller or Lincoln Pulse welders for aluminum? I swear it allows you to weld aluminum like you are welding steel. I have only personally worked with the Miller versions but it makes welding aluminum a walk in the park compared to the old way. They aren't cheap but if you do it very often well worth the money IMO.
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by pist0lpete
Any of you guys worked with one of the newer Miller or Lincoln Pulse welders for aluminum?
I have a Millermatic Pulser, it's only a few years old, and I can't find it in their catalog anymore. It has a spool gun and a MIG gun. It only has about 185 amps, but is great for thin aluminum. Once adjusted properly, it is just as you said, as easy as welding steel. I don't know why they quit making it.
And to answer the original question, I wasted a lot of time and money trying to get my previous MIG welder to push aluminum wire. The only way that it might work is if you were to use 1/16" or bigger wire, and that would need a lot of amperage.
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 01:21 PM
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Did it once with my little Weldpak 100. You just use reverse polarity DC and it's fine. Since I bought my TIG, I've never used the Mig for aluminum since.
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 02:05 PM
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I have a spool gun, but have never really been able to set it up to where i am happy with the damn thing. Any aluminum projects I just use the tig. I have not seen any spool welds that impress me one bit.
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