affordable DC/AC Tigs that can run on 110??
05-05-2008, 09:31 PM
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affordable DC/AC Tigs that can run on 110?? I'm thinking of buying a tig welder, have a couple challenges.
according to my electrician putting 220v into my garage will be rather costly due to the distance, etc.
if I get a Tig i want to do it right and have AC so I can do aluminum.
I know Miller has one but that sob is like $3200+ as I recall when I looked on their site, that's pretty steep.
HTP America is 10 min from my house and I went there this past Sat for a class and spend a few hours welding with the Invertig201 with the owner Jeff tutoring me and I think that's a badass machine, but requires 220v.
He sells a nice 110/220 machine for $1200 with nice options but its DC only so no aluminum.
Who's got some ideas?
according to my electrician putting 220v into my garage will be rather costly due to the distance, etc.
if I get a Tig i want to do it right and have AC so I can do aluminum.
I know Miller has one but that sob is like $3200+ as I recall when I looked on their site, that's pretty steep.
HTP America is 10 min from my house and I went there this past Sat for a class and spend a few hours welding with the Invertig201 with the owner Jeff tutoring me and I think that's a badass machine, but requires 220v.
He sells a nice 110/220 machine for $1200 with nice options but its DC only so no aluminum.
Who's got some ideas?
05-05-2008, 09:40 PM
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Having a 115v welder and it being AC & DC is going to be hard to find if anybody makes them.
Look into Miller, Hobart, and Lincoln welders. IMO they are the best!
Hobart & Miller are basically the same welders with different brand names and a slight different electrical parts (internal)
I personally own a Hobart Tig welder that does AC/CD and a few other things but i run it off of 230...
Look into Miller, Hobart, and Lincoln welders. IMO they are the best!
Hobart & Miller are basically the same welders with different brand names and a slight different electrical parts (internal)
I personally own a Hobart Tig welder that does AC/CD and a few other things but i run it off of 230...
05-05-2008, 09:57 PM
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Miller has one. The 200DX or the SD without pulse. but as mentioned its expensive as ****. $3500 according to their website for the DX. its pimp in that its a 110/220 AD/DC welder with nice options but **** that's pricey
just looked at Hobart's site, only Tig listed runs on 230
just looked at Hobart's site, only Tig listed runs on 230
05-08-2008, 07:55 PM
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most "standard" tigs require 50+ amps. thats a problem for most generators. Thats why the miller syncrowave is nice...you are paying for the inverter tech.
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05-08-2008, 08:57 PM
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You will be severely limited to what Aluminum you could possibly weld with a 110 volt machine. That being said, even if you found a decent 110 v machine, that could weld what you want now, one day you might want to weld some 1/4 aluminum, and that will NEVER happen with a 110 v tig machine.
My opinion, get the 50 amp 220 service (it's always a plus, maybe you will need a big air compressor or whatever one day) and invest in a decent tig machine. Not to down a Miller product but an econotig miller/hobart is not very versatile at all. The Syncrowave 200 is a great machine for a couple bucks more, well worth it.
I have an older syncrowave 250, it's 15 years old, and still welds beautifully.
I have had a lincoln precision tig 185, now it's the 225 it is also a great welder for the begginer at about $1650 new, lots of features.
I have lots of machines (weldor by trade) and I like millers and lincolns, but I tend to use more miller machines, I still have my Lincoln pro cut plasma though...
My opinion, get the 50 amp 220 service (it's always a plus, maybe you will need a big air compressor or whatever one day) and invest in a decent tig machine. Not to down a Miller product but an econotig miller/hobart is not very versatile at all. The Syncrowave 200 is a great machine for a couple bucks more, well worth it.
I have an older syncrowave 250, it's 15 years old, and still welds beautifully.
I have had a lincoln precision tig 185, now it's the 225 it is also a great welder for the begginer at about $1650 new, lots of features.
I have lots of machines (weldor by trade) and I like millers and lincolns, but I tend to use more miller machines, I still have my Lincoln pro cut plasma though...
05-11-2008, 07:41 AM
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FYI, the prices on Miller's site are a lot higher than you'll be paying retail. Online places like Indiana Oygen Supply(www.weldingsuppliesfromioc.com) and www.Cyberweld.com, have the Dynasty 200 SD for under $2600. I got my Dynasty 200 DX for around $2700 from a local place if I remember right. Once you add in everything you need to be "ready to weld" (tank, torch, lead, pedal)it's closer to Miller's original "machine only" price.
The cool thing with this machine is that you can weld on 110v right now, and down the road when you get 220 power you can use the same machine. Before I bought mine, I used a co-workers to weld on 110 and was very impressed, both on aluminum and steel.
It would still probably be cheaper for you to run the 220v and pick up a used synchrowave or something.
-Josh
The cool thing with this machine is that you can weld on 110v right now, and down the road when you get 220 power you can use the same machine. Before I bought mine, I used a co-workers to weld on 110 and was very impressed, both on aluminum and steel.
It would still probably be cheaper for you to run the 220v and pick up a used synchrowave or something.
-Josh
05-13-2008, 10:59 PM
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Yeah, I looked around and noticed much better prices than the miller site from some online retailers.
My electrician buddy will be getting me a price by the end of the week to install a 60 amp subpanel in the garage for the 220v.
HPT is 10 minutes from me and I really liked their Invertig201 when I used it, and the owner Jeff seemed like a stand up and smart guy. Probably going to look pretty hard at that welder..
My electrician buddy will be getting me a price by the end of the week to install a 60 amp subpanel in the garage for the 220v.
HPT is 10 minutes from me and I really liked their Invertig201 when I used it, and the owner Jeff seemed like a stand up and smart guy. Probably going to look pretty hard at that welder..
05-13-2008, 11:54 PM
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run the 8 gauge wire yourself and have your electrician hook it up. Hell, hook it up yourself...it's not very hard at all. I have no formal electrician experience and I ran my 220 for the cost of parts. It was like $120 and $60 of it was the cost of the breaker because my box used the old style ones which are $$$
05-14-2008, 09:16 PM
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I bought this today. http://www.millerwelds.com/products/...ty_200_series/ Damn Parker Metal tig gave me problems last weekend and pissed me off. This is cool for when we do high rise retrofits and you dont know what line voltage and phase power you get. I paid $2,300. Dont need a portable tig very often, and have them for the gas welders, but what the hell.
