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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 10:58 AM
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Just kinda curious as I wouldn't mind being one. If another is required that is.

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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 11:55 AM
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I'd like to know as well. I contribute on a daily basis and that is not only technical information. Although you show over 2 dozen mods I would say about only half post and of that half few post any good technical or specific information for the beginner (where to start), novice (what bolt on performance items - nitrous, turbo, etc.) or the advanced user ( racing setups, chassis design, etc.)

I do give J-Rod, Robert56 and a very select few props as they attempt to keep up with tech. info. and will answer any new questions no matter how redundant they seem.
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 12:00 PM
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There is no set way to become a moderator. If the admin notice you and think you deserve it, then they will if they are in need of a mod.
Don't pester any admin/mods to get you to be a moderator.
Saying only half of the mods post something useful won't get you there.
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 12:15 PM
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I'm am merely pointing out an observation. I did NOT state, "only half of the mods post something useful". I said of the half that post, only a select FEW post GOOD TECHNICAL information". There is a difference.

I would also like to point out your signature, if I may, with your permission Brandon. How are you helping someone and showing a good example by immediately illustrating to a new user or existing member that they NEED to use the search? Are you not here to help, guide and give information to the members? Is that not part of the moderators job? A forum is MADE for posting information or questions. If, every time someone asked a question, another member or mod told them to search, the forum would have very little posts or threads regarding a topic.

I am not picking on you, pointing fingers or flaming you. It is merely a point.
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 12:43 PM
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When someone posts up "Why remove EGR" such as 300bhp/ton did in the External section, when that has been covered extensively, thats when you step up and say "use the search button".

Especially when said topic is discussed every couple weeks. I agree, just b/c a topic is talked about once, 3 years ago, doesn't mean you should say "go search". But when you can do a search, and pull up over 3 pages of recent info, then there is a good chance if you take a little time you will find what you need. Utilize the resources you have at hand, instead of wasting them.........
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 01:03 PM
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NOSJohn, I guess we can completely dissable search, is that better? Search is a very helpful tool. Before I post something, I search for it, if I can't find something that I'm looking for, then I will post a new thread. New members should use the search when they are looking for basic information that has been asked a million times over (common sense would lead one to believe a "what cam" has been asked before). Like Cyphur has stated, there is no problem with asking something thats been asked before, but when someone asks a question that they could get numerous results from with searching, in the same amount of time it takes them to make a new thread, it gets annoying. How many threads do YOU feel are needed on "what cam?" serious question there. The majority of those posts are "I want 400rwhp, good mileage, and what else do I need?" Now those that have some specific goals, and have done some research before posting, I see no problem with those posts. The reduntancy of some posts gets old. People with proper information stop replying to them, and false information from uneducated or unknowledgable members is posted. I applaud you for replying to those (redundant) threads (if you do so), more power to you.
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 01:55 PM
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I second the opinion that when inquiring about what it takes to be staff on this site, slamming the current population isn't always the best idea, John and Tony aren't the only ones that decide things, the rest of us get our two cents also

no reason to debate the search thing, its a very very useful tool and there are some people on this site that drive everyone beyond crazy with their refusal to use the damn thing and just keep posting the same questions over and over again. Its a pain in the butt when a good tech question that really needs discussion gets drowned on the page by 400 beginner q's that have been answered 6 ways from sunday already, so encouraging the use of searching in reality HELPS us keep this site more tech oriented and on task for the users. Just my opinion.
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 03:08 PM
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I have not "slammed" anyone nor is that my intention. Apparently, you two are interpreting it than it's intended meaning. Sure, the search feature is great and that's why a forum has a database. However, during your day job or the job that makes you money and pays your bills, are you not repeatedly asked the same question or required to do the same task over and over and over? If you told a customer or a fellow co-worker to "go look it up in a dictionary" or "search for it on google" or "ask someone else"...even though you've been asked the same question possibly a dozen times by other customers or co-workers, is that the right thing to do? Probably not and you might receive a lower than average review from your boss.

So, in essence, we don't need mods? The search forum is here to help, guide and give answers? GREAT !

I know you fellas probably still don't see my view and never will but with my business, my friends and my code of conduct it is always the customer, friend, colleague that always comes first. If one of my customers have a question regarding their HP, Compaq, Gateway, IBM, or Toshiba computer...something that I've heard a million times, I don't tell them to go call the 1-800 number.

Edit: Here is a good example of work effort and the differences I speak of...

It took just as much effort to write this post:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showpost....17&postcount=3

as it did this post:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showpost....78&postcount=4

Which answer do I like better? It's not hard to pick. A big difference is being helpful, courteous and responsive to the user.

BTW, jrp is great w/ technical (I enjoy his write ups), he's just a search button addict/pusher.

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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 03:59 PM
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Since we're bashing mods...Gray is a big hunk of ****.
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 04:05 PM
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Work is an ENTIRELY different situation, thats apples to oranges. I accepted a position to SUPPORT an entire campus of people and their IT needs. I get paid to put up with their stupidity.

Here, I volunteer to help out with a community I love and want to see grow. However, when there is a function in place to facilitate the retrieval of said information, and people instead want to clutter the forum with more threads that are entirely unncessary - then yea, it gets annoying.

Some say there is something to be said about direct interaction on a "real-time" basis when you create a new thread. I agree. But, there are some topics that just don't have that same intrinsic value. And other topics - such as GMMG vs Loudmouth, and GMMG vs xxxxxx, and True Duals, that have been BEATEN TO DEATH, also "WHAT CAM", where the user needs to do a search, and read some more threads, and extract the raw information and apply said information to their individual situation and their individual needs. If they can't do that, then maybe they need to take a course on research skills. Or, you could write a FAQ for that?

Either way, this site is a self-learning website, thats the point. Its not a "spoonfeed me exactly the information I want right now or i'm going to post another useless thread" website. Unfortunately people don't understand that anymore. I KNOW you can appreciate the difference John, you're not stupid.

We disagree on how we approach this topic. I think newbies should read first, and then read some more, and then read again, then start asking questions. You think by asking questions they will learn. A good balance would be nice, instead of all the useless threads.

In any event - searching first is always the best answer.

edit - John......yep. Gray = Ghey.
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 04:26 PM
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It's not stupidity Travis, it's the general public showing lack of effort...on both parts. Laziness? Sure! We all want things quick, easy and free. If we don't get them, we complain.

It's a known and well researched fact that people are lost (leave a site) in 3 clicks on the internet. Web design by experienced professionals rely on this fact.

So, does someone want to click on a search button and make an effort to find what they want? Probably not. Should someone use the search feature? Definately! Will they? Probably not. They would rather type a question and expect an answer...a reasonable answer like ACW's. +2 kudos for ACW.
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 04:59 PM
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The stupidity I was referring to was the end-users I deal with every day. You would think that when they have to use a computer every day, and have done so for 3+ years on average, they woud learn a little. Some are dense, somee are lazy, many, I've decided, are just stupid. Those who aren't any of those, learn. Even if by accident.

I agree with your other points. However, if you don't search, you're going to miss out on a lot of other info you're never going to get just by posting up a thread. There's NO guaruntee that you will get the same info by posting a thread that you would by searching, and vice versa. However....if you do one, first, before the other, you'll narrow the odds.
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 05:23 PM
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My vote is no for NOSjohn as a mod. Loosen up!
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by cyphur_traq
When someone posts up "Why remove EGR" such as 300bhp/ton did in the External section, when that has been covered extensively, thats when you step up and say "use the search button".

Especially when said topic is discussed every couple weeks. I agree, just b/c a topic is talked about once, 3 years ago, doesn't mean you should say "go search". But when you can do a search, and pull up over 3 pages of recent info, then there is a good chance if you take a little time you will find what you need. Utilize the resources you have at hand, instead of wasting them.........
Just so you know, I asked a specific question when starting that thread. One that the search button hadn't provided answers too.

Here is what I said:
Originally Posted by 300bhp/ton
Before anyone asks, yes I've searched. Found 250+ results and so far none of them have answered my question.

1. Why remove EGR, what beneift is there? If any.

2. My understanding is that EGR is there to reduce NOx emmisions by reducing combustion temperatures, wouldn't this be a good thing and a good reason to keep EGR.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-external-engine/370377-why-remove-egr.html

See I even admit to searching and not finding the answer.

What I wanted to know, was how effective it was at minimising the risk of knock, as it was an area I had been researching. And the conclusion I have come up with is YES. So it was worthwhile (for me anyhow).

I also was interested in whether anyone else knew why they where removing it. As many people seem to perform mods and have abosutly no idea why. So by asking I hoped it would help enlighten others as well as myself.

Sorry if you seemed to deem it inappropriate, but I thought LS1Tech was about sharing and gaining knowledge.

If I'm wrong, please correct me though.

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PS - Sorry if this sounds a little cocky, not sure how else to write it
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 07:08 PM
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I remember the thread. I used you as an example....if I came across implying you were wrong to post that up I'm sorry, I just remember when you did that and I said to myself "you've got to be ******* kidding me". When I went in and read it(yes, I went in and actually read it) I was suprised to see a newish question. Hence why you didn't see a smartass remark from me in that thread My remark was just that EGR is asked a good bit, and you had asked, and you were already involved in the thread. See the connection?

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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 10:07 PM
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Wanna be a mod? Bribes work My paypal address is webmaster@ls1tech.com








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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 10:47 PM
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We keep an eye on folks, and also accept nominations from moderators.
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 04:37 AM
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Well thanks for your replys.

Also, thanks for running one of the very best tech sites. I've learned a lot here, and I hope I have helped others to learn also (hence the links in my sig).

Cheers.
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 04:50 AM
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I don't mean to hijack this thread, but what cam do you think would work well to get me to 650RWHP? And do you think this will be enough to beat a modded Cobra?
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by itchygomey98
I don't mean to hijack this thread, but what cam do you think would work well to get me to 650RWHP? And do you think this will be enough to beat a modded Cobra?
Not sure if this is a joke or not

If not then a little more info would be needed. Also you would need to post in one of the internal engine forums, which can be found here:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/ls1-ls2-ls3-ls6-ls7-performance-3/

Also the SEARCH button is a handy tool, as are the many sticky's found in each forum
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