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Old 02-15-2009, 01:05 PM
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Default 2002 Black Pontiac Trans Am WS6 - Only 43K miles

ONLY 43K Miles
BRAND NEW Tires.
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Factory Specs:
* 2002 Firebird Trans Am WS6 Performance & Handling Package
* 5.7 Liter SFI V8 Engine (325+ HP underated ~ more like 350-375 HP)
* Fast Shifting Automatic Transmission
* Black Exterior, Black Interior
* 17 High Polished Aluminum Wheels (P275/40ZR17 Speed Rated Tires)
* High Flowing Dual Exhaust System
* Functional Air Scoopes / Ram Air Induction System
* Specific Factory Tuned Suspension
* Power Steering Cooler
* 6-way power driver seat
* Steering Wheel Radio Controls
* Remote Keyless Entry
* Cruise Control
* Electric Rear Window Defogger
* Power Window and Power Door Locks.
* Air Conditioning
* Factory CD Player with 10-speaker Premium Sound
* Power Antenna/Power Mirror
* Removable Hatch Roof / T-Tops
* 4 Wheel Anti-Lock Breaks
* Dual Front Air Bags
* Theft Alarm / Pass Key 2 Deterent System
* Rear Wheel Drive

Special Package:

* Last of the Breed 1967-2002 Special Edition Package
* Commemorative Certificate of Authenticity (Final Year Production/Tribute)
* Commemorative Last of the Breed Key Chain
* Last of the Breen Fender Badges

These will definetely go up in value over the coming years. I would hold onto it but need the money. Hopefully it will go to a good owner. Car is registered until August 2009. Very motivated to sell. Car is just sitting in my garage. And now gas is cheap.



















Asking $16300
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Old 02-15-2009, 01:06 PM
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I'm in Southern California by the way. Car is stock except for Magnaflow muffler. I have the original muffler as well that I will give you.
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Nice car! Now if only you were in FL and I had about 5k more to spend! Good luck!
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thas a beaut man! Any chance you would consider a trade? lol....trucks in the sig plus cash?
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Thanks for the comments Not looking for trades at this time.
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Do I see headers??
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Older picture. It has regular stock headers now. Make me a reasonable offer guys
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I will take $15,500. I will take pictures of the interior and under the hood
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Price lowered to $15K Taking interior shots right now.
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Very nice car at a very good price.

HP is not underrated though. The only difference between WS6 and baseline T/A is WS6 has a different suspension/shock setup, and a different intake/intake mani. Some also got the LS6 heads.
Stock Baseline makes 300-310. Stock WS6 makes 315-330 to the wheels. Automatic's tend to do about 3-5% less RWHP than the M6's too.
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Originally Posted by Joey7489
Very nice car at a very good price.

HP is not underrated though. The only difference between WS6 and baseline T/A is WS6 has a different suspension/shock setup, and a different intake/intake mani. Some also got the LS6 heads.
Baseline makes 300-310. WS6 makes 315-320 to the wheels.
Dude nothing you have said is true at all... Please do a search before you open your mouth... The WS6 did NOT get a different intake manifold, they got a little bit different airbox, and no LS1 f-body ever came with LS6 heads stock. Some 01's and 02's got a LS6 block not just ws6'S ABOUT 15% IN 01 got them and in 02 about 25% got them the block adds no HP... Bump for a nice car.............
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Originally Posted by SOM02WS6
Dude nothing you have said is true at all... Please do a search before you open your mouth... The WS6 did NOT get a different intake manifold, they got a little bit different airbox, and no LS1 f-body ever came with LS6 heads stock. Some 01's and 02's got a LS6 block not just ws6'S ABOUT 15% IN 01 got them and in 02 about 25% got them the block adds no HP... Bump for a nice car.............
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a lil harsh, but true

Joey, the ws6 did come with a different air box setup, but all 01-02s came with the LS6 intake manifold, not just ws6 cars. also, you may be confusing LS6 heads with LS6 block, because a number of 02s did come with an LS6 block. No LS1 ever came with LS6 heads. WS6 cars did get a more free flowing muffler as well. Basically, the rest is cosmetic and suspension.
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Also, to the original poster, you might wanna add to your post any prior mods done to the car. It doesnt matter if you have taken it back to stock, it isnt stock once its been modded. Not trying to start a mess, but when you can see headers plain as day, it looks a little funny that you are calling the car stock. My point is, the car could have had a cam in it, and people like to know that up front when considering a vehicle. It makes many people think twice about purchasing a car that has had major mods done, like heads/cam or something of the sort. Im not saying your car has, but its better to be up front about that in the beginning so you dont look shady when people start to ask about the headers and stuff. Beautiful car by the way, I have the same car in an M6. I know you will miss her, but good luck to ya
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Is the car lowered? It looks lowered in a couple of the pics
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Originally Posted by SOM02WS6
Dude nothing you have said is true at all... Please do a search before you open your mouth... The WS6 did NOT get a different intake manifold, they got a little bit different airbox, and no LS1 f-body ever came with LS6 heads stock. Some 01's and 02's got a LS6 block not just ws6'S ABOUT 15% IN 01 got them and in 02 about 25% got them the block adds no HP... Bump for a nice car.............

Ok so I got the block/intake mani confused on the car. I coulda sworn someone said some came with LS6 heads... Anyways REGARDLDESS his original post claims theyre underrated and make 350-375 HP stock.... Umm... Please explain that.
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Wow, there's an entire debate going on here lol. Ok Car is now stock except for Magnaflow Muffler. It did have bolt-ons before including headers, exhaust, air lid, ported MAF, lowering springs, shocks etc. Those are now gone and only thing not stock on car is the muffler and new spark plugs I just put in there. In fact, those parts that are back in it have about 9K miles on them only including the stock springs, shocks, TB, air lid, exhaust, muffler, etc.

I will update my pics to more recent ones. Some of them still show the headers and the car lowered. Sorry for the confusion. But here are recent interior and engine pics. Imagine the outside of the car being the same except 1inch higher off the ground.














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Originally Posted by Joey7489
Ok so I got the block/intake mani confused on the car. I coulda sworn someone said some came with LS6 heads... Anyways REGARDLDESS his original post claims theyre underrated and make 350-375 HP stock.... Umm... Please explain that.
I was under the impression that they underated these cars for HP because they wanted to make it seem like the corvettes made more. If I'm wrong, I'm sorry. But I do believe my car has the LS6 block. I've been told that. And the car was made in later 2002.
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Originally Posted by Joey7489
Ok so I got the block/intake mani confused on the car. I coulda sworn someone said some came with LS6 heads... Anyways REGARDLDESS his original post claims theyre underrated and make 350-375 HP stock.... Umm... Please explain that.
Well, you can go ahead and assume a 15% (on average) power loss between crank power and rear wheel power. Most 6-speed cars make between 300 and 320 at the wheels stock. Just for comparison, 15% of 300 is 45, so a 300rwhp car is making approximately 345 at the crank. So, seeing as most horsepower claims from dealers are crank power, GM rating f-bodies at 300 for Z28/Trans Ams and 320 for SS/WS6 cars, they are thought to be underrated, as these numbers are closer to rwhp. If GM was claiming rwhp, then they wouldnt introduce the motor as the 300hp LS1 V8.

To the original poster, thanks for listing the prior mods. As I said before, that certainly clears a lot up, as people already noticed the headers and lowering springs. Once again, beautiful car and good luck with the sale

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Originally Posted by 2002LS1WS6
I was under the impression that they underated these cars for HP because they wanted to make it seem like the corvettes made more. If I'm wrong, I'm sorry. But I do believe my car has the LS6 block. I've been told that. And the car was made in later 2002.
only way to tell is the number on the block. i believe its on the backside of the block on the drivers side
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Well, you can go ahead and assume a 15% (on average) power loss between crank power and rear wheel power. Most 6-speed cars make between 300 and 320 at the wheels stock. Just for comparison, 15% of 300 is 45, so a 300rwhp car is making approximately 345 at the crank. So, seeing as most horsepower claims from dealers are crank power, GM rating f-bodies at 300 for Z28/Trans Ams and 320 for SS/WS6 cars, they are thought to be underrated, as these numbers are closer to rwhp. If GM was claiming rwhp, then they wouldnt introduce the motor as the 300hp LS1 V8.

To the original poster, thanks for listing the prior mods. As I said before, that certainly clears a lot up, as people already noticed the headers and lowering springs. Once again, beautiful car and good luck with the sale


Sure, if you want to rate crank HP you could say the dealer under rates them, but RWHP from the factory, STILL theyre not making 350-375 hp.
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